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Monster Stitch

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LF Ball Comparisons........
« on: February 03, 2013, 10:29:09 AM »
Hey guys! For those of you who have drilled a few LF balls, what balls do you think they compare to on the market. I am curious what type of range of balls we have. Please let me know. Trigg and Pat i know you guys have drilled quite of few balls in the line up. Your feed back would be great.
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Re: LF Ball Comparisons........
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2013, 01:50:52 PM »
Seriously........
A Critical Theory is very Angular and I would Definately not call it skid flip.
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Re: LF Ball Comparisons........
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2013, 09:34:43 AM »
ok heres what I have and my thoughts
Pin Hacker, very clean and yes probably the closest to skid snap I've seen of any of the LF balls, this ball for me is in the pearl IQ tour class
Torment, as stated a must have ball, clean up front, can be shot up the boards or when the break down you can swing it, for me this is close to the Laen #1 SOS maybe 2-3 boards stronger down lane, I have had two polished both, same drillings super ball
Jacked, i went outside my comfort zone on this drilled it pin under bridge cg out 45 with a weight hole 6.75 on that line, this ball gets good length and plenty of move off the back, similar in motion to the IQ tour solid, although looks heavier rolling down lane
Nasty, one of my faves, another heavy rolling peice that you can get outside and downlane and it will recover, gives me a look similar to the original Nexxus, not quite as angular tho
Exodus solid, another one of my faves (300 with it) smooth long and pronounced backend, sure looks like the hyroad down lane, although i think it retains more energy and has a better roll thru the pocket
exodus pearl is an oddity for me, mine goes long with a smaller move, but at 2k no polish it is a sport shot dream, not sure what I could compare this to, maybe a DV8 terror
exodus iron is long strong and angular for me, yet has a smoothness to it similar to a DV8 HR revenge, but handles a little more oil for me
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Judgement  long, handles some oil and very good recovery, every bit as stong as my DV8 HR revenge, but carries better from outside ten where as the revenge needs to hug the line.  I changed surface slightly on judgement took it to 1k and repolished, carry is so much better at this point, especially when the heads go and I can stand on the ball and push to a break point, this ball carries as well as any ball ive thrown

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Re: LF Ball Comparisons........
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2013, 09:51:48 AM »
My specs are
5 7/8> 3/4^ pap
450+ revs
17-18mph
12* tilt
40-50* rotation

I was thinking the 75x5.5x30 on my judgment

With those specs I would recommend you increase your VAL by say 10*. I very similar specs as yourself. I drilled my 85 x 4.5 x 40. If I would have drilled this with a 30 degree VAL I am sure it would burn up early. When it comes to low RG balls I always tend to increase the VAL. My Judgment skids the heads very well and have a very defined break in the backend. I wouldn't call it skid flip but the closest you will get with a low RG ball.

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Re: LF Ball Comparisons........
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2013, 01:27:28 PM »
Maybe I'll do a cg on midline and a 5.5-5.75 pin to pap with a 40* val ...and I agree about the critical theory I owned one and that was the strongest pearl I ever put my fingers in not skid flip but long and extremely strong

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Re: LF Ball Comparisons........
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2013, 08:38:53 PM »
Revs don't always impart "snap"

Axis tilt and axis rotation create angular motion.  Zero axis tilt and zero axis rotation is essentially a ball rolling off a handicap ramp.  No matter the RPM rate, that ball is going straight...

Just some food for thought...

Amen to that!


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Re: LF Ball Comparisons........
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2013, 05:21:28 AM »
The only comparison I've done to any other brands is a review I did last March(2012).  I do a mini comparison with my newly acquired Exodos Solid and Pin Hacker(the first two balls from Lord Field) with a few Lane Masters balls I had. Shortly after receiving these I pretty much liquidated all my Lane Masters balls as I knew this was the direction I was going to take.

MARCH 26, 2012
I finally got a chance to do a ball comparison of the Lord Field Exodus (2.7” Pin in RF, No WH, CG 1" RT of CL, 1/2" above midline, Dual Angle: 65* X 4" X 50*) and the Pin Hacker (2.4” Pin in RF, No WH, CG 1-1/2" RT of CL, 1/8" Above midline, Dual Angle: 55* X 4" X 45*). I compared them to my Lane Masters Masterpiece, Buzz Premium Edition and Blue Diamond Particle Pearl. I used them on my THS (37’ of oil using a new Kegel oiling machine and new Twister Pins on a newer synthetic Brunswick surface).

I first started with the Exodus throwing 18 at the arrows to 7-8 at the 40’ Range Finders and was hitting the pocket successfully. Then pulled out the Pin Hacker and had to tighten it up a bit, more like 18 at the arrows to 10-11 at 40’. Both balls from this line hit the pocket consistently (on this day….) and convinced me that this was the line to play for the comparison. Next I pulled out the Lane Masters/Legend Blue Diamond Particle Pearl (3” Pin above RF, No WH, CG 1-1/2" RT of CL, 1/2" Above midline, Dual Angle: 50*X 4" X 30*), from this line it was somewhat comparable to the Lord Field stuff except it didn’t quite recover as aggressively as the Exodus and Pin Hacker would but would strike if I tightened the line.

Next I pulled out the Lane Masters Buzz Premium Edition (2-3/4” Pin in RF, No WH, CG 1" RT of CL, on midline, Dual Angle: 65* X 3 7/8" X 45*) and Lane Masters/Legends Masterpiece (3-1/4” Pin above/RT of RF, WH 2-1/4" past VAL, 1" up, CG 1/2" above midline, Dual Angle: 38* X 3-1/4" X 30*). From the same line, the Buzz Premium Edition was very comparable to the Lord Field equipment and gave the best look of the 3 Lane Masters/Legends balls from this line and it’s shape was very similar to the Exodus . The Masterpiece was way too long for this part of the lane as it had a ton of polish over a 2000 grit abralon finish. It is my “so-called” dry/med ball at this particular house and probably wasn’t a good ball for this test. Although it does have it’s place on the right condition, today was not the day from this part of the lane.

Overall, the Exodus was the most aggressive of the 5 balls used, with the Buzz Premium Edition coming in 2nd, with the Pin Hacker next followed closely by the Blue Diamond and then a distant 5thwas the Masterpiece. I did have very good success as well with the Exodus at an older center in town, it was pretty much unstoppable once hitting the pocket and netted me my best scores of: 5-250+ games, 2-240+ games and several 230+ games. The Pin Hacker didn’t fair well in this older bowling center as it was little to over/under. I need to tweak the coverstock on it for the two centers I have been bowling in to make it useful and successful as the Exodus. Although, on this day the Pin Hacker performed admirably on my THS, it does seem to be a little “squirty” at times.

Final thoughts on the Lord Field bowling balls is they are excellent carrying and impressive balls when used on the right condition and are top-notch performers second to none. I look forward to the next two Exodus balls to add to my arsenal in the Exodus Pearl and the Exodus Iron.
Pat Patterson

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Re: LF Ball Comparisons........
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2013, 10:53:29 PM »
I've been throwing my Meanstreak almost exclusively the past 4-5 weeks. Just punched up my Judgement last night and laid it out exactly like the Meanstreak. I've got it being 2-3 boards more with a little more midlane, rolls great.. very smooth and predictable off the spot. Shot 715 out of the box in a tournament this morning with splits in the 10th each of the first two games, had the potential to be a huge set. I can definitely see some big scores coming with this ball.
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