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jgrip

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10 pin trouble
« on: October 18, 2013, 12:35:06 PM »
Got a storm mix about a month ago and this week have had trouble with picking up the 10 pin, went 4 for 13. Truly looking for some advice or what anyone else goes about picking it up, thanks

 

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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 12:56:41 PM »
Move left and practice
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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2013, 01:01:01 PM »
it's all just practice, find what works for you. You're already throwing plastic, so there isn't a whole lot more to suggest

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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 01:36:19 PM »

Agreed. Practice, practice, practice.

I'll share a story in my Collegiate days.

Back at that time (early-mid 90s), we at Univ. of Nebraska had our practice time on Monday evenings. We worked on everything (a given for collegiates); however, one of the things our coaches had us do was before we could head home for the night, we all started at one end of the house, and on each lane, we had to take the 7 pin and the 10 pin *only off the rack. If you took more than that off, you stayed on that lane until you took just those two pins off. If you did it, you went to the next lane and did the same thing.

Keep in mind, most of us had classes the following day, but it went late into the night for some, where it took an hour or longer to go through the alley. The first person done on either men's or women's teams finished in 45 minutes. Also, keep in mind that we really weren't using plastic balls for spares back then either.. most of it was either pearl urethane, or flattening the wrist.

This drill and one other alternate technique I may do led me to picking up so many 6-7s and 6-7-10s, I wouldn't believe it. On the other side of that ledger, you'd think it would be impossible to miss a 6-pin to the right with keeping the ball on the lane, but I've done that, too.

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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2013, 01:17:42 PM »
You can either move left , and flatten your hand out. Or you could invest in a plastic ball and throw it straight at the  10 pin. I bought a plastic ball just for the 10 pin. I used to miss alot of them. Now , I make 90-95% of them.

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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2013, 01:50:19 PM »
What I've taken to doing is using plastic and trying to imagine that I am trying to hook the ball at the 9-pin. Now, I'm not talking about ripping the ball, but just giving it a nice turn like I do on most strike balls. I've found that doing that makes me feel like I have more room, and the plastic cover gets the ball sliding easily over to the 10. Sometimes I think we psyche ourselves out when shooting 10-pins.

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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2013, 04:18:40 PM »
Not sure about your approach, but the biggest mistake I see guys make ( even pros ) is trying to throw too hard at spares.  You should be able to make a plastic ball go straight enough to make the 10 or the 7 relatively easy without firing bullets down the lane.  All that does is get you off balance and raise the likelihood that you miss your mark by a mile. 

Also, I know more and more really good players who are starting to like urethane even better than polyester for spares.  A polished, or 4000  buff urethane ball won't hook much more than a plastic ball, but is much more predictable coming off the end of the oil than plastic, unless you are one of the few guys who can throw the ball dead straight with any surface. 
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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2013, 04:57:19 PM »
I too throw plastic at my 10 pins. What works for me is that I use a suitcase release when I throw my plastic ball. I used to be terrible at picking up the 10 pin but since using plastic to shoot at it my percentage has gone way up 90-95% of the time.

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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2013, 05:13:22 PM »
The Storm Mix is a great ball (urethane) to use as a spare ball.  It will last longer and will provide you with a better option for those times you have really dry lanes.  Does hook a little more than plastic, but not enough to discourage you from using it.

Everyone has their own way of shooting 10-pins.  As long as you can repeat the shot will will make enough of them.  Only thing I would recommend is moving as far left on the approach as you comfortably can to make the 10-pin.  Much harder for the ball to hook by the 10-pin when you are that deep.  Plus it gives you a little more room for error.  And of course, as others have said, practice makes perfect.

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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2013, 07:29:04 PM »
Agree with avabob on the speed issue; for the 10 pin, I use a plastic ball and the same speed as the strike toss. I usually apply a little extra pressure with the thumb. On most 10 pin shots, my ball rolls over the thumb hole---which is fine with me.
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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2013, 08:47:47 PM »
Bought a Groove Urethane this summer and drilled it to hook. Its a pancake style core so its minimal hook at best. It has helped a ton for shooting at 10 pins. It is very straight and very predictable. It can also be a very effective strike ball on drier lanes.

Practice is also very important on what ever route you choose.

Also be sure on spares, especially the ten pin to go at the same speed in your approach and arm swing as your strike ball. The most common mistake a lot of bowlers make on spares, especially the ten pin, is rushing their approach.  This throws off everything.
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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2013, 04:20:03 AM »
and the further left you can go, and create a cross-lane angle, the wider the lane becomes for you to cover the 10 pin. look further down the lane, if you can.  get a buddy and go play low-ball during open bowling. lowest score wins, a 0 counts as an x or a /  and just simply get your muscles used to a certain rhythm to picking up that 10 pin.
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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2013, 09:16:18 AM »
I use plastic, stay completely up the back of the ball and I try to exaggerate my follow through....Works for me...Im about 90%, I usually only miss if I get aggravated that I left it, and then I dont concentrate
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Re: 10 pin trouble
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2013, 02:25:35 PM »
Practice is extremely important as the others have said.  I stand far left and point my toes at the 10 and flatten my release.  I also agree with the thought that some try to throw the ball too hard.  I use whatever strike ball I'm using for that game so it is possible with practice to throw any ball straight.