Author Topic: 300 a right of passage? (Read 4112 times)

Russell · « **on:** February 24, 2008, 12:25:59 PM »

I see more and more posts on this site from people throwing their first 300 games and the title of the posts are "finally"...or some variation. Since when did shooting a 300 game become a right of passage and not a great accomplishment?

I know these are rhetorical questions...but I just wanted to vent for a second. I remember when I ran a pro shop a kid shot 300 on the Saturday morning youth league. He came in and said...and I quote "Oh man I finally got my 300 game". It was like he was just supposed to get it....and it finally happened.

How many bowlers do we have to lose before we realize this has to stop?
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abrown · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:31:04 PM »

i think its more along the lines as a self set goal i know my goals were always throwing a 300 and 800 i have accomplished the 300 several times but still not the 800 and i think there saying after all the trying the finally succeded in the goal of perfection true a 300 doesn't mean the same now adays as it use to with the lanes and equipment its common to see honor scores shot

Spider Ball Bowler · « **Reply #2 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:38:16 PM »

The day I realized 300 games meant nothing, was the day I saw a guy who threw the ball pretty much worse than anyone I have ever seen shoot a 300 with 7 brooklyns. The next week he came back and had 263 after the first two games.

That was the day I realized....
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abrown · « **Reply #3 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:41:20 PM »

agreed but its still something some people never will achieve then others who have no business getting do i know i guy bowed for 20 some years avg 220 consistently neveer had a 300 or a 800 it amazes me how some people that deserve them dont have them

Spider Ball Bowler · « **Reply #4 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:44:58 PM »

Well I think it has to do with in this game, you can do absolutely everything right and not be rewarded for it, yet watch someone who does everything wrong and be rewarded.

I can't even count the amount of times when I have a string going and flush a 9 pin, only to watch the guy from the team we're bowling that just gets up with no clue duck the nose and carry.

Bowling is an odd game....sometimes people shoot games they never should, and that is just how it is.

My personal favroite it the guy that shoots 300 with a 640 series....good times.
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Russell · « **Reply #5 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:45:27 PM »

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agreed but its still something some people never will achieve then others who have no business getting do i know i guy bowed for 20 some years avg 220 consistently neveer had a 300 or a 800 it amazes me how some people that deserve them dont have them

That's the problem....noone "deserves" a 300.....that's my point.
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Spider Ball Bowler · « **Reply #6 on:** February 24, 2008, 08:50:52 PM »

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agreed but its still something some people never will achieve then others who have no business getting do i know i guy bowed for 20 some years avg 220 consistently neveer had a 300 or a 800 it amazes me how some people that deserve them dont have them

That's the problem....noone "deserves" a 300.....that's my point.
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300 games are still cool, but like you said, everyone and their brother gets one. I remember when it used to be a big deal, and I am sure way back before that it used to be a HUGE deal....now..when someone gets their first, it is a cool moment for them...and that is all.

Put it this way....back in '97 when I shot mine, the entire bowling alley stopped bowling and everyone came down to my lanes to watch my 10th frame. Now even the people next to the person with front 11 don't stop and no one cares.

What else is there to say....they're a dime a dozen
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abrown · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:04:34 PM »

after seeing this guy hit the pocket every ball for pretty much the last couple years i would venture to say hes got a 100 270 games your right no one does deserve a 300 it just more so i dont see how he hasnt got one hell my first 300 i was doing snake bites between frames and didnt notice till i was on my 12 ball but i was relaxed but having since shot my first it seems like the quality bowlers in my local area arnt the ones getting the luck yeah there the ones with the high average and series. but getting back is a 300 a right of passage in my opinion NO its not if there was one it would be a 800 in my opinon any body can wal in and like spider said throw 7 broklyns in a game get luky and shoot a 300 but i think its harder to shoot the 800 theres more time adjustments (unless your a lefty j/k) and more pressure heading into the last game knowing deep down what you need more so then ohh i gotta get the next 3 strikes is easier then ohh i need to everage at least 267 for the 3 games

Spider Ball Bowler · « **Reply #8 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:34:39 PM »

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Well I think it has to do with in this game, you can do absolutely everything right and not be rewarded for it, yet watch someone who does everything wrong and be rewarded.

I can't even count the amount of times when I have a string going and flush a 9 pin, only to watch the guy from the team we're bowling that just gets up with no clue duck the nose and carry.

Bowling is an odd game....sometimes people shoot games they never should, and that is just how it is.

My personal favroite it the guy that shoots 300 with a 640 series....good times.
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hey come on man...some of us can't choose some of that stuff lol. Today at our men's city tournament I shot 300.....and didn't even shoot 750. But I'm really proud of that series because I went 30 clean. I just happened to put some strikes together and could not carry to save my life the other 2 games =p. I literally missed the hole one time (the fill ball of game 3).

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Friday night I shot a 9 pin tap 900. I did not miss the hole. I went 258, 227, 258 for a 743.

First game left a 6 pin in the 7th, and a 7 pin first ball in the 10th...2nd game I left a 7 pin and stoned 8 back to back, then another stoned 8 pin, then a solid 10 pin first ball in the 10th...3rd game two 7 pins....one of the 7 pins I knew it was coming...and the 6 pin I had a feeling....the rest...wow....
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SprayNpray · « **Reply #9 on:** February 24, 2008, 09:47:50 PM »

I have shot 800, but never a 300, not even in practice. It is still the 800 pound gorilla on my back (Or is it 300 pounds? Whatever...), I have been consistently in the 220 range in average the last 3 years, and everyone in the area knows I still haven't gotten one. I am one of the few they will stop to watch if they notice because of it.

Last year alone, I had 8 games where had at least the front 10. In my entire lifetime, I would estimate that I have had at least 20 games of front 10 or better; it is almost always the 11th ball that gets me. 1 of the 8 games last year was a 298, my all time high. I have probably had over 40 279/278 games, and at least 20 288/289/290 games in my lifetime. By the way I am 30, bowling seriously for only about 9 years. Plenty of time for more torture.

When I shot 800, I had back-to-back 288's (front 10's) to finish the set. When you have come so close so many times without succeeding, it is only natural to say "finally" when it does happen. Not sure if anyone on here has endured the torture of stone 8's and 9's on great shots like I have in the 10th frame of potentially perfect games. I am usually on a string of 10+ GREAT shots (not slop or brooklyns) when I get to grab ankles in the final frame.

In case you were wondering, I would say 300 is a big deal.

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mumzie · « **Reply #10 on:** February 24, 2008, 10:54:47 PM »

Good topic!
I think a lot of the "younger" guys and guys that have a ton of honor scores don't think as much of them.

I'm a girl - it's a big deal when any of us shoot honor scores.

The night I shot my 800, the entire house was watching. And it was a handicap league!
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IowaMoe300 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 24, 2008, 10:55:48 PM »

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I have shot 800, but never a 300, not even in practice. It is still the 800 pound gorilla on my back (Or is it 300 pounds? Whatever...), I have been consistently in the 220 range in average the last 3 years, and everyone in the area knows I still haven't gotten one. I am one of the few they will stop to watch if they notice because of it.

Last year alone, I had 8 games where had at least the front 10. In my entire lifetime, I would estimate that I have had at least 20 games of front 10 or better; it is almost always the 11th ball that gets me. 1 of the 8 games last year was a 298, my all time high. I have probably had over 40 279/278 games, and at least 20 288/289/290 games in my lifetime. By the way I am 30, bowling seriously for only about 9 years. Plenty of time for more torture.

When I shot 800, I had back-to-back 288's (front 10's) to finish the set. When you have come so close so many times without succeeding, it is only natural to say "finally" when it does happen. Not sure if anyone on here has endured the torture of stone 8's and 9's on great shots like I have in the 10th frame of potentially perfect games. I am usually on a string of 10+ GREAT shots (not slop or brooklyns) when I get to grab ankles in the final frame.

In case you were wondering, I would say 300 is a big deal.

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I have just the opposite problem, as I have never had an 800. In my 25 years of bowling with more 750+ series' than I can count, but alas no 800. The 300 isn't the prize it used to be to many bowlers back when I first started. Most of these people now are bowling on slot machine conditions, and the 300 doesn't get any attention anymore. I for one could care less about it, since I see people in my town have 300's that can't hit the same board twice in 3 games, and go Brooklyn 4 times during their 300 game. When I miss a little bit, I get handed an 8 pin or a solid 10 pin to cost me a 300 or 800 (I'm a lefty). Most of these guys in my town whine about the shot at the house I bowl at cause its not a slot machine with 150 units of oil in the middle. I get no recognition cause I don't have 300's all the time, and never had 800 and that is what a majority of the uninformed bowlers notice. They don't notice that the 231 average I hold is 20+ pins higher than any bowler in the city on a condition which is not a slot machine, but you pay for your mistakes. They look at the hack that just shot 300 and say he is good. The more informed crowd looks more at the other aspects. It just all depends on the bowler, and what generation they are. How long have they been around bowling? Did they bowl with rubber and polyester balls? Most of the ones who think the 300 is a big deal are the ones who started bowling 5 years ago, and think a reactive ball is a new technology. They don't know what a tough condition is, and if you put them on a 40ft flat shot they would quit. Don't get me wrong, I can appreciate a 300 for what it is, but it takes a lot more talent to roll strikes and pick up 99% spares for an entire season, than it takes for some of the 300's I have seen.
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Artimust · « **Reply #12 on:** February 24, 2008, 11:16:06 PM »

Well I'm still waiting for my first 300. Came close a few times, but no 300. I know a guy that has 38, 300 games, and about 5 800 series. For me, it will be a big deal to get my first 300, but just for me. I really don't care what anyone else thinks, it's just a goal for me that I have yet to achieve.

iowalefty · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2008, 12:03:03 AM »

when i bowled my 300 a month ago i did type finally in the subject line as i remember...for me it was getting that monkey off my back kinda thing. ive been close really only a few times, nearly bowling the 300 when i was 14 (solid 7 and solid 6 on back to back shots) and 7 yrs later with a 299. a few practice 300's at least gave me confidence that i could finish the opportunity off in the meantime. as for 800...well my 770 featured 3 straight opens in the game following the 299. it is a tougher shot than most (as moe mentioned) miss by a board youre likely not gonna strike. you can hit the pocket but itll either be weak corner or solid 4/6 pin. for that i take great pride in my 300 at least. (as an extra note after taking so long to bowl the first 300 i got the front 10 on feb 19th and left a weak 7 pin for a 289..

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agroves · « **Reply #14 on:** February 25, 2008, 02:10:09 AM »

I love the guys who say they "finally" got a 300, then you find out they've been bowling 3 years. That really puts todays easy conditions into perspective.
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