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jmc1972

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Advice on Burnt up patterns
« on: June 11, 2017, 08:28:36 PM »
Hi Y'all today I cashed in a tourney with 23rd Place. The Pattern was PBA Bear which I qualified at +71. In the Semifinals I ended up -37. (4 game qualifier and 3 game semi). I had a very difficult time finding a line in the Semi's. What should I look for and what should I do on these conditions?

Used a Surelock off the 15 board in qualifying on fresh.

Next week it's ABT #9 which is 38' at 1:2.43 ratio. I'm sure it will be high scores.


Thanks!
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SVstar34

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Re: Advice on Burnt up patterns
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2017, 09:05:22 PM »
first off, congrats on cashing. Second, how many people were there to cash in 23rd? Around 120?

What I've learned bowling on sport shots is you'll learn what to do with more experience. Sometimes you have to make a big jump inside but other times you'll have to make a move outside. It all depends on other factors like lane surface, topography, how many games, and who you follow

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Re: Advice on Burnt up patterns
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2017, 09:19:57 PM »
first off, congrats on cashing. Second, how many people were there to cash in 23rd? Around 120?

What I've learned bowling on sport shots is you'll learn what to do with more experience. Sometimes you have to make a big jump inside but other times you'll have to make a move outside. It all depends on other factors like lane surface, topography, how many games, and who you follow

Thanks, I'm not sure how many were entered. I will say that I enemies up 2nd worst in the cash. First time making it. I had a ton of confidence going into the round then I played the first frame and confidence began deteriorating and fristratiin took over. I played the 11am squad on fresh with 1 game. It is one game then move. I'm guessing with my game there was 24 games not including mine (3 people per pair, 4 game squads, and 2 squads today).

Again it was Bear and I couldn't find a decent place to play from. The guy after me was -90 for 3 games while I was -37. I'd really like to have some form of a strategy for next weekend.
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Re: Advice on Burnt up patterns
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2017, 10:51:22 AM »
For me the Bear is the toughest animal pattern.  Keep in mind that almost any pattern can be played fresh, it is the transitions that kill you.  As to how to handle the transitions, it really depends on your style.  It always seemed to me that the guys with a lot of hand had the most success as they were able to get way left and over power the pattern as it transitioned. 

I bowled an 8 gamer on a 41 foot sport pattern with a big time ob outside of about 7 board the other day.  First game, there were not many good scores in a 24 man field.  I shot a clean 213 and felt pretty good.  Second game I shot 212, but suddenly guys with hand were on big strings all over the place.  The combination of the pattern and the surface allowed guys to open the shot up around 15 fairly quickly, and it ended up taking +145 to cash.  On a different surface or with a different makeup of heavy handed guys the transition could have been much tougher. 

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Re: Advice on Burnt up patterns
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2017, 07:45:23 AM »
For me the Bear is the toughest animal pattern.  Keep in mind that almost any pattern can be played fresh, it is the transitions that kill you.  As to how to handle the transitions, it really depends on your style.  It always seemed to me that the guys with a lot of hand had the most success as they were able to get way left and over power the pattern as it transitioned. 

I bowled an 8 gamer on a 41 foot sport pattern with a big time ob outside of about 7 board the other day.  First game, there were not many good scores in a 24 man field.  I shot a clean 213 and felt pretty good.  Second game I shot 212, but suddenly guys with hand were on big strings all over the place.  The combination of the pattern and the surface allowed guys to open the shot up around 15 fairly quickly, and it ended up taking +145 to cash.  On a different surface or with a different makeup of heavy handed guys the transition could have been much tougher.

It was interesting that in this particular tournament the people with huge hooks and fast speed weren't in the stepladder. It was people like myself with a stroker style and the biggest difference between them and myself...speed. They were bowling at a speed of what I would compare to a 5th grader. I've tried to get my speed down to 10mph and the slowest I can get is around 13 and still have some form of control. Guess I better start working on getting more hand to get larger checks lol.

Thanks!!!

Now it's off to Salt Lake for the rest of the week. No bowling for me until Sunday.
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