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Hannah620

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Advice / Tips for Bowling?
« on: June 10, 2016, 08:00:50 PM »
I am on the junior varsity bowling team at my school and I am not very good at bowling and never got put in any of the games, so I would like advice or tips to bowl better if possible.
I used to bowl with a 9 pound bowling ball, but my grandmother just got me a bowling ball for my birthday, my coach said if we were to get our own bowling ball it would have to be at least 10 pounds so my grandma got me a 10 pound bowling ball and I used it for the first time last week after I got it and the highest score I got was an 84.
I was never that good with the 9 pound bowling ball either though, but the highest score I ever got was maybe a 113.
Please just comment any tips or advice for me.

 

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Re: Advice / Tips for Bowling?
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2016, 10:09:11 PM »
It is very difficult to give any kind of tip or advice based on what you posted. 

See a good coach to get you started with the basics and to ensure that you have a properly fitted bowling ball.  When you have the money to invest in bowling, make sure you buy a good pair of bowling shoes, ones where you can change/adjust the soles and/or heels to properly match the approaches and your style.

You can find some good tips from a coach at http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/roncarchive.htm

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2016, 10:30:20 PM »
Welcome to the fun world of bowling. Lots of good and bad information is online just like any sport. May want to try getting some help with a good coach locally.


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Re: Advice / Tips for Bowling?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2016, 03:21:55 PM »
I'm guessing that you're in high school?  Assuming that you're a teenager, are there any junior bowling programs in your area?  If you join a junior club, they should have coaches there that can at least teach you the basics and can participate every week. 


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Re: Advice / Tips for Bowling?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2016, 10:21:41 AM »
It is very difficult to give any kind of tip or advice based on what you posted. 

See a good coach to get you started with the basics and to ensure that you have a properly fitted bowling ball.  When you have the money to invest in bowling, make sure you buy a good pair of bowling shoes, ones where you can change/adjust the soles and/or heels to properly match the approaches and your style.

You can find some good tips from a coach at http://www.bowl4fun.com/ron/roncarchive.htm

Well, I already have a bowling ball and the shoes.

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Re: Advice / Tips for Bowling?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 10:22:58 AM »
I'm guessing that you're in high school?  Assuming that you're a teenager, are there any junior bowling programs in your area?  If you join a junior club, they should have coaches there that can at least teach you the basics and can participate every week.

I don't think so.

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Re: Advice / Tips for Bowling?
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2016, 02:35:20 PM »
I finally got several videos of myself bowling and posted it to youtube -- check it out ---> https://youtu.be/XcwVkfcoNdQ -- You can comment on the video, or reply back here.

P.S. check the description of the video on youtube. I added my scores.

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Re: Advice / Tips for Bowling?
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2016, 02:48:45 PM »
If the high school has a bowling program, are there also coaches for the bowling team?  Are there organized practice sessions for the team in which you can participate and receive some guidance?  It surprises me there would be a bowling team at the high school with no coaching support at all.

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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2016, 02:52:13 PM »
If you want to just bowl and have fun, don't worry about doing anything and just do what makes it fun for you.

If you want to be more competitive, I'm pretty sure we'd all suggest you need someone with coaching experience to help you in person.

There are videos on YouTube that can help you by providing information and showing how certain things should be done. But it would be most beneficial if you had a coach to help you and make sure you are doing things correctly

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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2016, 03:01:35 PM »
If the high school has a bowling program, are there also coaches for the bowling team?  Are there organized practice sessions for the team in which you can participate and receive some guidance?  It surprises me there would be a bowling team at the high school with no coaching support at all.

We have a coach for the bowling team at school. The thing is, is that we haven't practiced over the summer because he said he would text everyone when he's available to practice with everyone. But he also focuses more on the people who play really good, mostly during the varsity games, but then again that would make sense so he could help them out during competition.

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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2016, 03:06:23 PM »
If you want to just bowl and have fun, don't worry about doing anything and just do what makes it fun for you.

If you want to be more competitive, I'm pretty sure we'd all suggest you need someone with coaching experience to help you in person.

There are videos on YouTube that can help you by providing information and showing how certain things should be done. But it would be most beneficial if you had a coach to help you and make sure you are doing things correctly

Well, I would like to be on the varsity team and actually get in a game and succeed because I enjoy bowling. I am just asking for tips that could possibly help me without coaching, considering I can't have a coach near me every time I bowl. And many people asked for me to provide a video of my bowling because that would help them be able to give me advice or tips and I finally had the ability to record several videos of myself, so I added them all together and uploaded it to youtube.

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2016, 03:21:32 PM »
If the high school has a bowling program, are there also coaches for the bowling team?  Are there organized practice sessions for the team in which you can participate and receive some guidance?  It surprises me there would be a bowling team at the high school with no coaching support at all.

We have a coach for the bowling team at school. The thing is, is that we haven't practiced over the summer because he said he would text everyone when he's available to practice with everyone. But he also focuses more on the people who play really good, mostly during the varsity games, but then again that would make sense so he could help them out during competition.

and herein lies the problem. Should the coach help out those who are further well off for the sake of competition and winning as well as prep them for their next stages (they are the next generation of bowlers)...

.. or concentrate on the new bowlers coming in, because they are also the next generation, are enthusiastic about the sport, and are actively seeking and wanting to be coached?

Both have advantages, but personally, I'd give a 40/60 split between the varsity players and the new people, with the bigger chunk going to the newer people. The varsity kids know more of the fundamentals and can pretty much figure out what they need to work on from eachother. But the new people; you don't want to drive them away from the sport due to lack of attention..

Here's an idea. As far as your club/team goes, get hold of your coach, and ask them to do this: If they can get the entire team together (Varsity and JV), get them together for a coaching session. For those on the Varsity team, this would be a great MENTORING (read: peer to peer) session. In other words, the coach can't be in all places coaching you at once. This is where (s)he should depend on the kids on the Varsity team coming down to help out the JV side and get them some coaching or mentoring, especially in the fundamentals you need to get your averages and performance up.

Then when the coach is done with his Varsity side, he should be able to come in and take over from where the mentors left off, or even have them help the coach in the coaching. That way everyone wins: Varsity gets coached, JV gets coached, and the Varsity side helps in the coaching.

Outside of that, the killer right now is that this is the off season for you. With it being summer here, other things in life will take priority. But don't let that stop you from actively seeking any coaching. If your club's coach is USBC certified, then I would definitely go to an alley that may be hosting a summer youth league, perhaps even sign up for that league, but go with the intent that you're looking for a coach to help you in your development. That type of coaching should come with a USBC sponsored youth league, so if you are in one, you should take every advantage of that. From there, you'll get started on your journey.

Last thing: don't ever be afraid to ask questions! That's what the coaches are there for. If something you're learning doesn't look or feel right, ask about it, and and make sure it's right and what you need. The coaches should be looking out for your interests, not theirs.

Hope this helps, and keep posting if you have any other questions!

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Re: Advice / Tips for Bowling?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2016, 03:43:43 PM »
If the high school has a bowling program, are there also coaches for the bowling team?  Are there organized practice sessions for the team in which you can participate and receive some guidance?  It surprises me there would be a bowling team at the high school with no coaching support at all.

We have a coach for the bowling team at school. The thing is, is that we haven't practiced over the summer because he said he would text everyone when he's available to practice with everyone. But he also focuses more on the people who play really good, mostly during the varsity games, but then again that would make sense so he could help them out during competition.

and herein lies the problem. Should the coach help out those who are further well off for the sake of competition and winning as well as prep them for their next stages (they are the next generation of bowlers)...

.. or concentrate on the new bowlers coming in, because they are also the next generation, are enthusiastic about the sport, and are actively seeking and wanting to be coached?

Both have advantages, but personally, I'd give a 40/60 split between the varsity players and the new people, with the bigger chunk going to the newer people. The varsity kids know more of the fundamentals and can pretty much figure out what they need to work on from eachother. But the new people; you don't want to drive them away from the sport due to lack of attention..

Here's an idea. As far as your club/team goes, get hold of your coach, and ask them to do this: If they can get the entire team together (Varsity and JV), get them together for a coaching session. For those on the Varsity team, this would be a great MENTORING (read: peer to peer) session. In other words, the coach can't be in all places coaching you at once. This is where (s)he should depend on the kids on the Varsity team coming down to help out the JV side and get them some coaching or mentoring, especially in the fundamentals you need to get your averages and performance up.

Then when the coach is done with his Varsity side, he should be able to come in and take over from where the mentors left off, or even have them help the coach in the coaching. That way everyone wins: Varsity gets coached, JV gets coached, and the Varsity side helps in the coaching.

Outside of that, the killer right now is that this is the off season for you. With it being summer here, other things in life will take priority. But don't let that stop you from actively seeking any coaching. If your club's coach is USBC certified, then I would definitely go to an alley that may be hosting a summer youth league, perhaps even sign up for that league, but go with the intent that you're looking for a coach to help you in your development. That type of coaching should come with a USBC sponsored youth league, so if you are in one, you should take every advantage of that. From there, you'll get started on your journey.

Last thing: don't ever be afraid to ask questions! That's what the coaches are there for. If something you're learning doesn't look or feel right, ask about it, and and make sure it's right and what you need. The coaches should be looking out for your interests, not theirs.

Hope this helps, and keep posting if you have any other questions!

BL.

Well, I said he mostly only helps the varsity people when were competing against another school. Before we started competing against other schools, we actually have bowling club where anyone can join to play for fun or practice, and our coach knows who's on the team and I will obviously rejoin next year so he would help everyone during club. And he's also planning to get in contact with everyone to practice this summer and I assume he would help everyone and not just the really good players.
However, on the bright side, I signed up to go to a bowling camp this weekend. It's only two days, but on the sheet where I signed up it said what we were going to do. And it also said that they would check to make sure our bowling ball is the right fit and everything.
But for now I posted a video of my bowling on youtube, to see how people could help over the internet since I can't have a coach every single time I decide I want to go bowling.

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Re: Advice / Tips for Bowling?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2016, 04:04:50 PM »
Hannah, I watched you take several shots on your youtube link. I will comment on one area: your grip. Although I could not actually see you grip the ball, I suspect that your thumbhole is too big---a common problem for most new bowlers and plenty of not-so-new-bowlers. If your thumbhole is too big, you will squeeze with your thumb to keep from dropping the ball. That extra pressure will hurt every part of your shot including the arm swing, release, and ball reaction.

Your thumb fit must be snug but not so tight that you cannot make a clean release. Here is an excellent video that may help you: http://www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/bowling-tips-relaxed-bowling-grip-pressure-006865/

Good luck. Bowling can be a great fun sport. Enjoy it!
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2016, 05:45:24 PM »

another thing I've also noticed, Hannah, after watching part of your clip. While it can be normal for someone to start their approach so quickly after getting set, I have to wonder..

What target are you looking at? Obviously, it is hard to see that as we are seeing your bowling from behind you, but I'm wondering what target you are trying to hit or aim at when you are delivering your ball. I know that others will chime in here as well, but keeping your ball in play and being consistent about it is something that everyone works on throughout their bowling career. This would mean finding a target on the lane, and trying to hit that target every time.

Another thing to check into is a consistent rhythm in your form, relative to your feet, and balance throughout your approach. For that, with today's lady pros, I'd look at clips of Stefanie Johnson. Watch clips of her, especially her footwork, form throughout her approach, and how balanced she is at the foul line. She, followed by Danielle McEwan, currently best match your form, in a basic 4-step delivery. This will definitely take some coaching, but the sooner you can get your balance and form down as well as hitting your target on the lane, your scores will also go up. Not knowing your age (If you're talking Varsity and JV, I'm also assuming high school), a 9 pound ball may be too light for you. Again, talk to your coach on that and see if you may need something heavier, and work your way up to that.

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