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suhoney24

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Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« on: September 19, 2016, 10:31:58 AM »
So I have been informed now that starting this year when I come back since I only throw with 2 fingers I can't put all 3 in the ball now for a spare (think along the lines of Osku) I mean how many little things are they going to keep adding to try to drive us away from this style of bowling?
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 10:44:00 AM »
What is the rule number for that?
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suhoney24

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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 11:12:15 AM »
i am not completely sure sorry, i can ask him as it was my league manager that came over last night when i went in to do some paperwork and informed me since im one of a few that does it. He also said in no way will he enforce it and that im just to watch myself around guys who would call it and if i ever go to tournaments.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 11:27:46 AM »
Quote from: suhoney24 on September 19, 2016, 10:31:58 AM
So I have been informed now that starting this year when I come back since I only throw with 2 fingers I can't put all 3 in the ball now for a spare (think along the lines of Osku) I mean how many little things are they going to keep adding to try to drive us away from this style of bowling?

Do you have a balance hole and a thumb hole in the spare ball?
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 11:44:05 AM »
Quote from: suhoney24 on September 19, 2016, 11:12:15 AM
i am not completely sure sorry, i can ask him as it was my league manager that came over last night when i went in to do some paperwork and informed me since im one of a few that does it. He also said in no way will he enforce it and that im just to watch myself around guys who would call it and if i ever go to tournaments.

Have him show you in the rule book. I can't find it.
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suhoney24

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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 11:44:49 AM »
I do not sir, all my stuff is 100% up to spec on that rule...the new rule is saying I can't throw with 2 fingers then 3 for a spare because it's altering my delivery
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HankScorpio

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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 11:54:29 AM »
As far as I know, your league manager is full of crap. You can either passive aggressively ask the league manager to show you the rule in the rule book (he won't be able to find what doesn't exist), or you can simply email USBC yourself for a rule verification yourself, print it out, and provide it to your league manager straight from the horses mouth.

Either way, you're doing nothing wrong.
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Gene J Kanak

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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 11:54:53 AM »
I've always thought that you should be allowed to throw the ball any way at any time provided you stay behind the foul line. If I'm RH, and I'm talented enough to throw LH to pick up the 10-pin, I think I should be able to do it. If I can master traditional form, two-handed, no-thumb, etc., that's a credit to my coordination and/or athleticism, no? Sadly, I think it all comes down to attempts to limit bagging. USBC feels that if they allowed people to throw any way they wanted, you'd have people establishing low averages with one delivery only to switch to another and blow the doors off of people using another.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2016, 12:20:37 PM »
Quote from: HankScorpio on September 19, 2016, 11:54:29 AM
As far as I know, your league manager is full of crap. You can either passive aggressively ask the league manager to show you the rule in the rule book (he won't be able to find what doesn't exist), or you can simply email USBC yourself for a rule verification yourself, print it out, and provide it to your league manager straight from the horses mouth.

Either way, you're doing nothing wrong.

I agree here also he's misunderstanding the rules involved. There is a rule that states you can't have more than one open hole in bowling ball basically. There is also a rule that you cant switch hands or if your bowling with a true two hand style think chest pass than you cant switch back. From what you've said none of this applies to you unless you stand at the line at shot put the ball with both hands for spares.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2016, 12:35:57 PM »
I've been called out on the same thing. 

The rule book state you cannot alter your "normal" delivery... but it also says going from no-thumb to thumb is OK as long as you still use same dominant hand.

(Rulebook needs to be worded a little better you think?)

You should be fine as long as the ball itself weighs legal with regards to which delivery you use.  (Thumb in or out).

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ThomasBowling

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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2016, 12:59:08 PM »
What a stupid rule.
I would protest it and spare with 3 fingers if I felt like it.
Though the 2 handers around here spare the same way, 2 fingers.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2016, 01:14:48 PM »
Thanks for the help and encouragement guys. The only shot I even do it with is the 10 and that's because it's cross lane and gets my form mixed up sometimes so it's just easier to go straight at it
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2016, 01:15:07 PM »
Quote from: ThomasBowling on September 19, 2016, 12:59:08 PM
What a stupid rule.
I would protest it and spare with 3 fingers if I felt like it.
Though the 2 handers around here spare the same way, 2 fingers.

The point here is that this "rule" isn't a rule at all. It doesn't exist. I've bowled in league with people who use two fingers, and then use 3 for the spare ball. There is nothing in the rules against that.

If I were the OP, I would also call out the league manager, and have him point out that explicit rule.

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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2016, 01:51:06 PM »
I have seen the alter your delivery rule used to protest other things.

I have seen a bowler leave a 7-10 split in the 10th frame and simply toss the ball from behind the approach.  The opposing team captain called that altering your approach.

Same with being upset and lofting the ball 30 feet down the lane in anger.
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Re: Another fun usbc rule to remember now (sarcasm)
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2016, 01:59:27 PM »


From the USBC site on the FAQ for this subject:

USBC modifies rule on bowling ball gripping holes
Lucas Wiseman
USBC Communications
Published: May 7, 2014 | Bowl.com


FAQ:

What about bowlers who sometimes use their thumb and sometimes do not use their thumb? For example, what if a bowler does not use their thumb for a strike ball but does use their thumb for a spare shot?

The bowler would need to make sure the ball is within specifications from both centers of grip (middle of the grip for thumb in, and center of the bridge for thumb out). If the bowler is going to switch back and forth between using their thumb and not using their thumb, they would need to use a ball without an additional balance hole.
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