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Impending Doom

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Bowling ball industry.
« on: July 09, 2013, 03:51:31 PM »
What do you think would be a way to get people to be more excited about bowling balls, and what do you think would make pro shops more profitable?

I think that all companies should go by the old marketing ploy of keeping balls in the line up for AT LEAST 2 years. There is just no way that you can sell a lot of balls when you keep discontinuing the new releases 4 to 6 months later.

I remember when you would see the top guys throwing *the* ball to have (any company, really). The Danger Zones. The Nitro/R2s, the Cuda/C's. They would shoot the lights out with them, then the lower end guys knew they could walk in a shop, order one, and like it. None of those balls were gone within a half year, and it was good business. Keep several of the IT balls in stock, and you were good.

Nowadays, if a ball gets released at Bowl Expo time, chances are about 50/50 that it's going to be discontinued by January. Trying to get a ball that people will remember the name is hard.

Let's use a ball that's a little more recent. The Break/Eagle series has been in the line in some form since 2007. It rolls well, you know what you're going to get, and can trust it.

Focus on making really well rolling balls, test the crap out of them, and keep them in the line for at least 2 years. HyRoad, anyone?

What do you guys think?

 

Long Gone Daddy

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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2013, 04:47:32 PM »
You're asking ball whores to go into rehab to kick their habit.  You're asking the ball companies that feed their habit to stop making money.  When people get it thru their heads that the ball is not the be all end all answer.  When do you think that will happen?
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2013, 05:23:52 PM »
Yes, the memories.   Long and forgotten. Just like the new equipment. 

DP3

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2013, 05:40:18 PM »
Buying more and more of "the latest" equipment stimulates the economy and keeps companies alive.

Track_Fanatic

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2013, 06:01:09 PM »
I'm with Doom on this one.  The lane conditioner doesn't change every 90 days to 180 days, why should equipment?  What about the distributors and pro shop owners who get stuck with stock and then have to discontinue them. The flooding of equipment is not fair to the distributors, pro shop owners or bowlers.  This is one of the reasons why a lot of shops won't carry equipment in stock or if they do, they only stock very little. They can get it in a few days. What was happening back in the 80's and early 90's where shops would stock up since they knew that equipment wasnt coming out like they do now.

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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2013, 06:37:51 PM »
You're asking ball whores to go into rehab to kick their habit.  You're asking the ball companies that feed their habit to stop making money.  When people get it thru their heads that the ball is not the be all end all answer.  When do you think that will happen?

Those that do should go to rehab!!  All ya gotta do is drill up the same one with a different drilling and then change surfaces accordingly instead of buying newer stuff. I remember I fell in love with the Track Arsenal Artillery.  I had 3 drilled differently and one of those flaming T spare balls.  I was set for the THS as well as lighter oil patterns in tournament play. For oil, I had the Rule GP2.  The Heat Blast was a Blast for me. That was versatile as well as the artillery.

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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2013, 06:46:12 PM »
It wouldn't effect ball whores in the least. They could branch out to other brands instead of trying to keep up with one or two tops.

Surface is the key. You can buy two of the same ball and adjust the surface along with layout to cover a large variety of conditions. Most people do not understand that and have bought into a ball for every conditions and anything in between.

If you reduced the number of bowling balls released by every manufacture I think there is a chance you would sell less. In todays world of information if a ball gets mixed reviews it is dead in the water. Now in one year if that is your high performance ball how much can the manufacture expect to really sell?

Instead if you keep recycling and modifying cores/covers and make a smaller production run of a product to be replaced every 3-4 months, you have not limited your self to the highs or lows of one ball.


The days of a ball being amazing and a must have are gone. There are plenty of them available so you can always pass and wait for the next thing. There is always something else.
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blesseddad

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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2013, 08:48:35 PM »
The funny thing about that industry or any other is that they need you to buy the newest and greatest or they go away forever. Back in the day, when balls lasted years and years, game after game, they knew you and 11 million other idiots would be in the center at least once a week for league and probably twice a week for practice.
Then they got smart, and said, Bowling is shrinking. There are fewer and fewer league bowlers every year. And Today: They say, Hey, There are only 3 million idiots who bowl league and we need to make up for the lost sales....Hey if we make balls that quit hooking after 50-100 games and teach them to buy new balls every 3 months, how smart do we look? We still get to sell tons of balls and do not even have to feel guilty about it.

Solution: Find what you like, but more importantly, what works for you, take care of it, work with the dreaded pro shop to make it last as long as you can, and understand that every 200 games, no matter what, you will be buying something else...they have us by the short hairs, peeps...

They just keep selling us new stuff, based on a number of cores and covers and they mix and match them every 3 months to see what you will buy.  They are so very, very smart....

Armourboy

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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2013, 03:57:36 AM »
I look at it like this, just because its new and shiny does't mean you are forced to buy it. Yes it gets a little crazy at times, but no one is holding a gun to your head and making you purchase them  :P

Personally I'm ok with a couple in the spring and a couple in the fall, the problem is there is like 40 freaking ball companies now so thats like 200 damn balls a year lol
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Long Gone Daddy

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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2013, 05:54:42 PM »
New hook monster comes out, people gotta have it.  Oh no, it hooks too much, too soon.  thank god!  They came out with a pearl version.  Yay!  All is solved.  NO, NO, NO.  Just use the ball from two years ago that was the hook monster that year but pales in comparison to the new one.  Polish it.  OMG!  It goes longer and doesn't hook too much too soon.  Who knew? 
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2013, 06:04:24 PM »
New hook monster comes out, people gotta have it.  Oh no, it hooks too much, too soon.  thank god!  They came out with a pearl version.  Yay!  All is solved.  NO, NO, NO.  Just use the ball from two years ago that was the hook monster that year but pales in comparison to the new one.  Polish it.  OMG!  It goes longer and doesn't hook too much too soon.  Who knew?

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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2013, 07:13:30 PM »
or maybe the sales drop in old releases and people wait for the new stuff
look at the hyroad it sells so its still around
I doubt if you kept the top selling ball today in 2years it would be selling 1/10 as good

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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2013, 01:13:24 PM »
        Yeah, but its fun watching something different roll down the lane, all to get the same result!!!!  >:( I always thought there would be a 300 in one of the many balls I'd keep buying, but after forty years of bowling I still haven't had a one!!!!
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2013, 03:16:15 PM »
If keeping balls in the lineup longer was going to make manufacturers more profit they would do so! There is nothing saying you have to go out and buy the latest and the greatest.  Society as a whole, tries to keep up with one another! There are many different manufacturers now than 10 years ago, bowling balls are selling! Somewhat off topic, people say bowling is going downhill, here in MI things seem to really be picking up. There is something to bowl EVERY weekend within an hour drive it seems almost all year round!

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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2013, 03:45:09 PM »
I think one of the best things the bowling industry and especially the proshops could do is promote a bowler's profile. Get a system in place where a bowler can go to the lanes, throw a ball a few times, then give them their bowling profile. Maybe have something like this where it available at the lanes once or twice a month.

I still see many bowlers going into the proshop just wanting the biggest hooking ball on the market. The concept of "more hook is better" needs be replaced. Of course maybe the ball industry doesn't want that.
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