Rule 106a is about how "a Series is bowled". Basically where a team should start bowling on the pair of lanes. Its more of starting right side or left side.

Rule 100a is what defines a league. League must have scheduled matches.  It doesn't state scheduled lanes for matches.

You are reading into these rules too much.

Good stuff here.......and, if the facts support it, I'll revise my opinion.

I think the question now becomes:  What is meant by "where the team is scheduled".  Is the authority on this a) what the standing sheet assigns and/or b) does the house have the authority schedule the lanes (in the event of mechanical/scoring issues) in a different manner than what is originally planned?

So in essence, if I'm the house owner, and I have a computer glitch and I re-assign the lanes, ARE YOU SCHEDULED on the lanes I (the house owner) have assigned at that point OR are the lanes on the standing sheet an absolute MUST?

Am I (the house owner) the authority on the lanes used OR is that sheet?  Example: You're to bowl on lanes 3-4 but I (owner) have re-assigned you to lanes 1-2. 

1)  Do I have that right as owner?
2)  If you are re-scheduled, have you become "scheduled"?

Damn..........I'll let you all ponder this.          

Good debate tho..... 

My opinion:  I'll bowl on any pair as both teams are facing the same conditions.  I simply do not care enough to fight this fight (unlike OP's friends). 

......Good debate tho..... 

My opinion:  I'll bowl on any pair as both teams are facing the same conditions.  I simply do not care enough to fight this fight (unlike OP's friends). 

And this is where I stand personally.  But I can kinda understand the issues the OP's teammates have.  If I am forced to bowl on 1 & 2 at my center when in reality I am "scheduled" to bowl on a different pair, I might say something.  Those lanes are horrendous compared to the rest.

But if there is a true issue with my originally assigned lanes, then all bets are off.  I would be put on whatever is available and I have always accepted that.

Sometimes "computer glitches" may happen.  My question is why wouldn't the center either

A) fix it before you started bowling (if that was possible) or

B) just manually enter the names into the computer system and bowl on the correct lanes. 

I'm assuming of course that this was a computer problem within their league software and not a machine mechanical problem where that pair or other pairs couldn't be used. 

There wasn't anything wrong with any lanes, they just said it was a "computer glitch" on the schedule. So, teams 1 and 2 were supposed to bowl on 3-4, teams 3 and 4 on 5-6 and us (teams 5 and 6) on 7-8. We never used lanes 1 and 2 on league. So what they did, they moved all of us one pair to the left and teams 1 and 2 were moved to the other side, lanes 25 and 26. My teammates complained before we even started practice, they talked with both the secretary and the president of the league and they said it was just a computer glitch. So, the question is: at the end of the day the outcome would be the same? Yeah, probably. But something was wrong since there wasn't any good reason to move us from one pair to another. I don't really understand why they complained before practice, but then after the sandbagger and everything else happened, I think they were even more mad about that and I guess they are trying to find a way to nullify what happened yesterday.

I don't know if there is a chance or not and frankly whatever happens, would be fine. But there was a mistake, and someone (president, secretary or whatever) needs to explain what happened. Because as someone said earlier, what if one guy on team 1 hates bowling on lane 3 and 4? I mean... You get my point, right?

I highly doubt that the center is going to go through all that trouble to switch lanes for every team for that night based on 1 persons liking of a pair or not.... I just dont ever see that happening..  If you guys had such an issue before u even started bowling, I ask the question? Why did you even bowl then that night?  You still had the oppertunity to reschedule before you even threw a ball to post bowl later on in the week if it was such an issue for your team to be bowling on lANES 5 & 6 then what you thought the lanes you was to be bowling on LANES 7 & 8.. The score will stand and there wont be any changes in the standings..  If I had the issue you guys did, That would of put a little more fire in me to of wanted to bowl even better being your team was still in 1st place before the night started. It happens, its just a part of bowling.  I guess u guys should of bowled better then what u did.   What it really comes down to is, they bowled better than your team that night and won, plan and simple.  theres always next week 

Bowl better? I have 205 average in that league and I bowled 225 average. My other teammate with 206 average had 225 average too. One teammate with 194 average ended with 227 average, the other one with 182 ended with 205 average and the low man with 178 ended with 190 average... I ask again, BOWL BETTER? When you bowl against a sub with only 6 games with a crappy 164 average and bowls 225, 243 and 210 it is pretty hard to beat that. We won none of the games! If you think we need to bowl better next time, think again.

Just looking at the numbers. A 678 series doesn't seem so unreachable for a 164 average bowler to get (especially on a house shot). Think about it. Just add 50 pins to both scores. Do that and its a 214 average bowler throwing a 728 series.

I am sure this is a common occurence in many league nights across the country.

Yeah it sucks that he threw the scores against you, but I am sure you and your team have had awesome nights too.

Give the other team the credit they deserve. Your team needs to take the loss.

Quote from: kidlost2000 on March 27, 2015, 01:34:56 PM

USBC will state the league is fine starting on any lanes they choose and unless theres a league rule that says otherwise the scores stand.

Exactly.  It's clowns making mountains out of molehills like this that make people not want to be league officers.  Absolutely ridiculous.  Did the whole leage bowl on lanes oiled in the same manner?  Yes?  Case closed.   

Mr douche has spoken. Case closed.