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nocarey

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Cracked bowling balls (article)
« on: November 03, 2014, 11:10:33 AM »

 

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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2014, 04:03:03 PM »
Milo!!

I'm with you on this subject. I am just not buying it! I have just had three balls crack on me while sitting on my ball rack. Three of the four were from the same company, unfortunately. Two of the four were fairly new....(one to two years old) and only had a few games on them.

However......all of the cracks were huge voids stretching all the way around the ball or stretching from my thumbhole to my balance hole. No glue was involved in any of these cracks!!

I still own oldies but goodies from the nineties which have neither large voided cracks or cracks near the finger holes! This sounds to me like a manufacturing glitch or just the nature of these super-soft, highly aggressive covers that they make these days!
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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2014, 04:17:50 PM »
I wonder if an original LT-48 ever cracked?   :o


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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2014, 08:46:11 PM »
I wonder if an original LT-48 ever cracked?   :o



 I don't know, but mine had that old "cork" type core that soaked in the humidity so much that I was always having to smooth up the thumb hole.

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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2014, 06:42:12 AM »
my guess is when the old rubber balls were new they didn't crack because they were softer than the plastic ones and not many used grips or slugs so no crazy glue was used


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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2014, 09:33:19 AM »
Just Rico...I have a question for you...Do you think we have a bigger problem
with shells cracking TODAY as compared to YESTERDAY...

It seems that in the OLD days the Shells were much thicker...3/4" to 1"...

Now it appears most are about 3/8" thick...

And in the old days the shells were not as porous...

Do you think this may be a reason for the cracking issues with today's ball..


Thank you
« Last Edit: November 04, 2014, 09:35:55 AM by jls »

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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2014, 02:37:27 PM »
But the LARGEST is the curing process...bowling balls are not allowed to cure properly as they were previously

Could you please expand on this?

Has there been a change in the chemicals or procedure, or have they been rushed out the doors too soon, or???

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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2014, 07:02:16 PM »
i have a brunswick nexxus red and black one that i have less than 1 year.went to new york 5 days when i come back its cracked all around from the thumb not even near the pin.my driller contacted the distributor he got it from and because the ball was made 2 years ago they won't replace.i only had it 11 months.i will never buy another piece of crap made in mexico brunswick ball again.never had one cracked before.

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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2014, 07:10:13 PM »
It has nothing to do with where its made. If your driller can show that you purchased and drilled the ball and the ball cracked in a year from that time its covered.

I have two undrilled Ebonite balls crack. It wouldn't stop me from buying from them.
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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2014, 10:54:40 PM »
In my opinion, from what I know of manufacturing, anything made has a natural curing time...so if the time needed is shortened, that doesn't or wouldn't eliminate that necessity...so if the core is still 'changing' or curing and the cover is poured over a changing, 'live' object, something generally gives....thus any crack becomes a gap...the core is pushing the shell away or expands
I do not believe it has anything to do with the shell thickness or porosity of the covers...
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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2014, 05:28:16 AM »
In my opinion, from what I know of manufacturing, anything made has a natural curing time...so if the time needed is shortened, that doesn't or wouldn't eliminate that necessity...so if the core is still 'changing' or curing and the cover is poured over a changing, 'live' object, something generally gives....thus any crack becomes a gap...the core is pushing the shell away or expands
I do not believe it has anything to do with the shell thickness or porosity of the covers...

now that could be an article BTM may be interested in

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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2014, 06:49:01 AM »
Agreed nocarey
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2014, 07:47:07 AM »
Not beveling holes creates a larger opportunity for the holes to chip on the edges, which can lead to cracks.  The glue issue is when you use too much glue.  It expands and contracts at a different rate than the ball does, so if somebody slobbers glue all over the place, you're going to have more of a problem, and they also tend to come out more often.  I put a dab of glue on each side of the grips, and bevel every hole no matter what, and I've never had any problems. 

Curing is and can be the predominant cause, but that doesn't invalidate what Jeff said.  I know Jeff personally, have for a long time, and he knows his stuff.  I don't believe he said temperature fluctuation was the sole cause of balls cracking.  The customer has no control over the curing process, but they do have control over what they do with their equipment once they buy it.  If you're keeping your equipment climate controlled, then obviously it's not your fault, but there are plenty of people out there who don't understand the concept, and given that it's the easiest and really the only thing you as a bowler can do to help prevent the problem, I think that's what this article was aimed at. 
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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2014, 09:55:21 AM »
In my opinion, from what I know of manufacturing, anything made has a natural curing time...so if the time needed is shortened, that doesn't or wouldn't eliminate that necessity...so if the core is still 'changing' or curing and the cover is poured over a changing, 'live' object, something generally gives....thus any crack becomes a gap...the core is pushing the shell away or expands
I do not believe it has anything to do with the shell thickness or porosity of the covers...
Just Rico...Yesterday a customer came in with two old balls from the 90's..

A Piranha and a Beast...Neither one was cracked...And the shells on those balls were
much thicker...In that era most shells were 1 1/2" thick...Which became the reason
Thumb slugs became popular...

Today's shells are about 3/8" thick at best...and are more porous...

I don't ever recall having cracking issues with the balls from that era...

So IMO...I think it is possible that the thinner and more porous shells on today's balls
may indeed be a reason for all the cracking issues...

I find it rather ODD that all of a sudden...All the manufacturers are having curing issues...

Shells are about 20% as thick compared to balls of that era...That means boo koo
savings on material...


just my opinion...


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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2014, 10:00:48 AM »
Are you saying that Obama causes bowling balls to crack??  :o ;D
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Re: Cracked bowling balls (article)
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2014, 10:14:27 AM »
Cores are also larger on average. That and filler will lead to thinner shells as well.
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.