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Necromancer

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Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« on: January 28, 2009, 04:04:01 AM »
I see a lot of people on here complaining of dead bowling balls after x games.  I don't know what these people are doing with their balls except absolute neglect and laziness.  I have owned several bowling balls.  The only time a bowling ball is dead is when it is cracked open (near the bridge or the entire ball is splitting).

Every ball no matter how old can be rejuvenated very cheaply.  I turned used balls into awesome balls all the time.  I do the same with other stuff like cars, motorcycles, computer equipment, walls, etc.  I turned my old dorm room into a state-of-the-art theater while still in college with NO JOB with just 2 buckets of paint and a projector.  

I keep my car clean outside, inside, and under the hood.  I got 50,000 miles + on it too and no issues at all.  Then I see Mr. Crappy Driver have break issues, engine problems, etc. after just 10,000 miles.  People don't take care of anything.  I always said you can tell a lot from a person by looking at the DVD's/CD's they own.  Video games especially.  All you gotta do is count the scratches on them and you will see how horrible they are as owners of anything.

So with bowling balls, I bet these same people are rolling their balls, probably in the gutter.  Then slamming the balls in their bags.  Leaving them in the car or shed or outside because they are too lazy.  Won't take the 5 minutes needed to use alcohol or any cleaner to wipe it down and store it away.  You know how I know?  I see the same nasty balls every week during league.  My balls are clean and others just look like they came from a freezer.

Give me a break.  I got over 1000 games on my Vertigo and like 5 nicks and nothing else.  The nicks are like scratches at best and no dents or anything else.  All I see on here is "oh my god ball is dead after 50 games, 60 games, x games".

Yeah sure!


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MrNattyBoh

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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2009, 12:17:36 PM »
I have to agree with. I have never had a ball "die" on me after so many games. I even throw the ball really hard with very little hand and have never had a ball "die". I just bought my first brand new ball in over two years this past week. I bought myself a Perfect Rival. Good ball. I dont think there is a chance of this one ever "dying". I think people just use that as an excuse to buy new bowling balls every other week.
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JessN16

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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 01:38:11 PM »
It depends on the ball. I have an X-Factor with around 2,000 games on it. It still performs at about 85-90 percent of its original potential, but it took a dishwasher treatment and a full resurface to accomplish it.

To say there's no such thing as ball death, though, is inaccurate, especially in the early days of proactive and particle coverstocks. Ask Columbia owners about the Complete Chaos, for instance. I had one that lasted 40 games before dying and no amount of resurfacing or maintenance helped it. And I'm fairly good at maintenance. The first few Zone Pros had similar issues.

In modern coverstocks, Ebonite balls tend to lose reaction quickly for me, but can be brought back. However, they can't be brought back to factory levels, in my experience, and the problem worsens a little bit with every cycle.

On the flip side, I just resurfaced a Visionary Bronze Centaur that appeared to have a couple hundred games on it when I got it, and had been beaten up pretty badly, probably by wood lanes. It jumped back to life eagerly. So do most Storms I've used. But I have a Roto Grip Retro Resurrection that has been made tame with age, so it's not universal.

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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2009, 01:46:44 PM »
Necro you are the man though.  You could make $1 out of $.15 just by looking at it long enough.



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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2009, 02:14:51 PM »
wheres the man with the drinkin game................. Passed out dead drunk???

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Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

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FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!

Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

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leftyinsnellville

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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2009, 03:06:57 PM »
I, too, agree that with proper maintenance almost every ball can last for years and years...one exception.  I bought a Brunswick Scorchin' Inferno and it was a monster in heavy conditions.  About five weeks later that puppy d-i-e-d died in heavy oil.  I don't have an explanation for it because I maintained it meticulously (just like I do all of my balls).  I figured it must be saturated and tried everything to get the oil out of it - hot water bath, dishwasher, even paid for a rejuvinator treatment and a resurface and it never hooked in heavy oil again.  I sold it to a friend for a song, and he had it filled and drilled and it did nothing for him in heavy oil either.  He ended up polishing it and using it for medium/dry conditions.
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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2009, 03:13:16 PM »
I agree.  I will gladly pay shipping for any newer balls that are proclaimed "dead".

OddBalls

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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2009, 03:17:38 PM »
Uh, wrong..

While I agree that you can rejunvenate MOST balls to have the reaction come back you won't see 100% of what it was. I've rejunvanted many of them sucessfully.

Case in point:

I only had two ball every die on me that I could not bring back.

A first run TNV and BW soild.

After about 50 games, both had lost significant reaction, so off to the hook -again chamber. No good. While the reaction was "better" it still wan't anything like it was. Put them in a rejuvenator and sweated a lot of oil out of the cover, reaction did come back "somewhat" bu died again quickly.

Ball is now a dart (TNV) and I sold the BW solid.

Sorry, but this is from personal expierence with 100's of bowling balls..




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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2009, 03:25:06 PM »
I disagree to a point. Completely dead? No. After a few hundred games despite towel drying off between attempts, cleaning after each series, oil extractionS and surface prep I still see bowling balls that hit weak compared to when they were new. If you bowl on wood lanes or lanes that are dry the same bowling balls I'm describing have plenty of life. Start with any kind of volume of oil or run into carry down and I've noticed the balls hit weak or they begin to hook, grab some oil and straighten out. I picked up The One Pearl recently because my BW Bite and Sure Fire have hit weak my last 3 outings. The two same balls on the same lane was no comparison. One had a predictable strong hook the old one skid like it was on ice.

Can I get the old ball to hook? Can I score with it? Of course but now I have to adjust to a weak ball and the conditions by playing mostly with speed to get the desired reaction. You can make plastic hook if you take enough speed off but does that mean I want to use that as my strike ball in league because I can? I have a few bowling balls laying around with 300-500 games on them and I just can't trust them night in night out. I'm a fairly avid bowler, nothing special but not exactly a hack. These are my findings with 2 leagues per week and some practice thrown in. Doesn't mean I'm right, doesn't mean I'm wrong but I think there is some validity to new age bowling balls losing performance and it not just for the lazy, uneducated bowler.

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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2009, 03:48:32 PM »
quote:

I turned used balls into awesome balls all the time.


*drinks*

quote:
I do the same with other stuff like cars, motorcycles, computer equipment, walls, etc.  I turned my old dorm room into a state-of-the-art theater while still in college with NO JOB with just 2 buckets of paint and a projector.  


*drinks*

quote:
I always said you can tell a lot from a person by looking at the DVD's/CD's they own.  Video games especially.  All you gotta do is count the scratches on them and you will see how horrible they are as owners of anything.


*drinks*

quote:
You know how I know?  I see the same nasty balls every week during league.  My balls are clean and others just look like they came from a freezer.


*drinks*

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Give me a break.  I got over 1000 games on my Vertigo and like 5 nicks and nothing else.  The nicks are like scratches at best and no dents or anything else.  All I see on here is "oh my god ball is dead after 50 games, 60 games, x games".




*drinks*

The best part is, this exact same thing is posted every other week, but he's so arrogant he probably thinks he's making some revolution. So

*drinks*

I guess I'm not driving to league.
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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2009, 03:49:13 PM »
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wheres the man with the drinkin game................. Passed out dead drunk???

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FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!

Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 04:18:09 PM »
IMO, a dead ball is one that the weight block has separated.  It will never roll the same again and no amount of surface reconditioning will help.  


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Easy10pins

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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2009, 04:19:10 PM »
IMO, a dead ball is one that the weight block has separated.  It will never roll the same again and no amount of surface reconditioning will help.  


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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2009, 05:21:09 PM »
In all my years of bowling(26), I have had 1 core crack (PIRANHA-C), 1 ball crack(TRIFECTA-shot 796 with it the previous night), and 2 balls die(RISING, BITE).
The piranha, I left it in the car overnite. MY FAULT!!!!!!!!!!!!

The trifecta, ball cracked on the STORM LOGO. Storm gave a PASSION to replace it. (TRIFECTA was a defective ball).

The rising has become a little mid lane, then nothing ball. It was a GREAT backend ball. NOW ABSOLUTELY USELESS!!!
      ( I will admit I did NOT clean the ball very often back then).

The BITE was cleaned every night, EVERY NIGHT!!!!!!! ABSOLUTELY TRASH!!!!!!!
     ( the pro shop operator tried to bring it back, and finally gave up on it)                                               It was given away- FREE.

This is MY experience. MINE, I don't buy ebonite, track, hammer, or columbia anymore. (I forgot about the columbia EPX) ABSOLUTELY WITHOUT A DOUBT TRASH!!!

COME ON!
GIVE IT TO ME!
I HEAR THE GRUMBLINGS.
YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING!
I HAVE TO BE A IDIOT, OR DON'T MAINTAIN MY EQUIPMENT OR SOMETHING!

LISTEN-this is just MY experience, I'm not saying that those are bad  ball  companies. I have a TRAUMA/ER, AZURE ZONE PRO, & INTENSE INFERNO, I still use A LOT. I must have 1000 games on the ZONE, 600 games on the TRAUMA, & 250 games on the INTENSE.
      Right now I CARRY a YEAH BABY, BLACK PEARL, VIRTUAL GRAVITY, & INTENSE INFERNO. This WORKS FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 LET THE NAME CALLING BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Dead Bowling Balls - No Such Thing!
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2009, 05:24:35 PM »
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LISTEN-this is just MY experience, I'm not saying that those are bad  ball  companies. I have a TRAUMA/ER, AZURE ZONE PRO, & INTENSE INFERNO, I still use A LOT. I must have 1000 games on the ZONE, 600 games on the TRAUMA, & 250 games on the INTENSE.
      Right now I CARRY a YEAH BABY, BLACK PEARL, VIRTUAL GRAVITY, & INTENSE INFERNO. This WORKS FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 LET THE NAME CALLING BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 600 and 250 games on a ball isnt much at all if you take care of it.
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