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giddyupddp

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Every Ball Review is Positive
« on: April 14, 2017, 10:27:33 AM »
I appreciate that most balls manufactured today are of good quality but every review it seems by bowlers on this site are positive. Nobody ever posts any negative ball reviews which seems counter productive. I know there are a lot of staffers who post thus they can't dare say anything bad about a ball but every non-staffer too? I just started to use this site a lot and would like more honest opinions on balls or any subject. Take care

 

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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2017, 10:34:46 AM »
Reads the mid lane very well with tons of continuation!!! LOL

They always say that about every ball.  I'm been back at bowling about 5 years now, averaging 210ish, got a couple 300's and a few 700's.  I still don't know what the hell reading the mid lane and strong continuation means????

If my shot doesn't continue threw the pins and exit around the 20 board, it's because I threw a bad shot and didn't have a good angle in the pocket or my release was bad and I came around the ball causing it to pick up it's roll too late and it deflects out of the pocket.  Sorry but the latest and greatest ball isn't going to fix that. 

Hell I can throw my storm mix for strikes and get very good results........if I throw it correctly.
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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2017, 10:37:10 AM »
My opinion is that there aren't really "bad" balls being made. Majority of the time if you use a ball on it's recommended lane conditions you're going to get a pretty good reaction. Surface is the biggest factor and every ball today takes well to changes so it's pretty easy to fine tune a reaction.

There's been a couple exceptions over the years, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find more than a handful of "bad" balls that a lot of people didn't like.

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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 11:10:04 AM »
I appreciate that most balls manufactured today are of good quality but every review it seems by bowlers on this site are positive. Nobody ever posts any negative ball reviews which seems counter productive. I know there are a lot of staffers who post thus they can't dare say anything bad about a ball but every non-staffer too? I just started to use this site a lot and would like more honest opinions on balls or any subject. Take care

You answered your own question.
Since all balls serve a specific purpose, the best balls are most useful over a wind range of conditions. There are truly no bad balls.
So, all a negative review does is show that either you bought the wrong ball for the wrong purpose or your drill recommended the wrong ball for you or for your delivery or for the conditions for which you wanted it.  Thus, either you or he/she does not know your game or they don't bowling balls or one of decided on the wrong drilling or the wrong surface.

All those potential negatives are your or his faults, not the ball's.
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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2017, 11:14:19 AM »
Great continuation has become the newest catch all description. When a ball and release matches up to a condition you are going to get great continuation.  Another bowler may or may not experience same depending on their release.

 The other one I like is "keeps the pins low".  Geometry and physics tell us that two round objects of the same circumference will both cause a cirved pin to become airborne at the same angle when hit.

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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2017, 11:18:57 AM »
I appreciate that most balls manufactured today are of good quality but every review it seems by bowlers on this site are positive. Nobody ever posts any negative ball reviews which seems counter productive. I know there are a lot of staffers who post thus they can't dare say anything bad about a ball but every non-staffer too? I just started to use this site a lot and would like more honest opinions on balls or any subject. Take care

You answered your own question.
Since all balls serve a specific purpose, the best balls are most useful over a wind range of conditions. There are truly no bad balls.
So, all a negative review does is show that either you bought the wrong ball for the wrong purpose or your drill recommended the wrong ball for you or for your delivery or for the conditions for which you wanted it.  Thus, either you or he/she does not know your game or they don't bowling balls or one of decided on the wrong drilling or the wrong surface.

All those potential negatives are your or his faults, not the ball's.

The first batch of the original Phaze were some truly bad balls.  Yes, you can argue that it can be used on dry conditions and be fine, however, that was not Storm's intention nor was it anyone who was buying it. 

Other than that, I can agree with you for the most part.

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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2017, 01:30:39 PM »
There shouldn't be really any "bad" balls..minus that 1%. I think it's a matter of the balls versatility. Some equipment is just more versatile to patterns, release, etc. Those that are, get the better rep..those that aren't become labeled negatively.

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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2017, 01:36:17 PM »
Great continuation has become the newest catch all description. When a ball and release matches up to a condition you are going to get great continuation.  Another bowler may or may not experience same depending on their release.

 The other one I like is "keeps the pins low". Geometry and physics tell us that two round objects of the same circumference will both cause a cirved pin to become airborne at the same angle when hit.

Even if it has a "Patented Diamond Core?"  :o ;D
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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2017, 02:08:11 PM »
Great continuation has become the newest catch all description. When a ball and release matches up to a condition you are going to get great continuation.  Another bowler may or may not experience same depending on their release.

 The other one I like is "keeps the pins low". Geometry and physics tell us that two round objects of the same circumference will both cause a cirved pin to become airborne at the same angle when hit.

Even if it has a "Patented Diamond Core?"  :o ;D

Sure, go ahead, kick them when they're down and stupid. :)
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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2017, 02:35:54 PM »

Most balls are tested on typical house conditions by decent bowlers.  If you can't make the ball strike it's probably not the ball.

Having said that, "out of the box" I've had some that don't match up with me, so I adjust the surface until it does.  Not often do I find a ball that I just can't use somewhere...


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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2017, 07:29:25 PM »
No bad balls just bad bowlers
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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2017, 07:43:00 PM »
I remember a few years ago there was a ball released and many complaints about the ball not reacting good.  Turns out there was a batch where they forgot to add the resin so the ball was basically a pearl urethane.

The company did replace those balls for those bowlers who complained. 
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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2017, 08:13:53 PM »
I remember a few years ago there was a ball released and many complaints about the ball not reacting good.  Turns out there was a batch where they forgot to add the resin so the ball was basically a pearl urethane.

The company did replace those balls for those bowlers who complained. 


What ball was that??

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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2017, 08:31:16 PM »
The main "bad review" ball that comes to mind for me would be the Columbia EPX. If I remember right, the majority of the reviews here on that ball were negative.

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Re: Every Ball Review is Positive
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2017, 09:57:14 PM »
I have posted fair reviews, many I am in favor of the piece, some did not work for me and I mentioned that.
includes, Eruption pro solid (orange)- just to responsive for me
GB2 gold - no luck what-so-ever, gave it away
there are afew others that just dont match up for me.

Just like everyone else, there are a few that are keeprs for usre, they just match up to your style and lanes that you are on.
For me, right now, that is the Sideswipe solid, I could easily justify another one with a different layout in my bag.
It just reads and rolls in the right spot for me, multiple different patterns, and different surfaces.
Hopefully it will useable in Vegas