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CincyBowler82

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Good ball for a dry house shot
« on: March 02, 2015, 10:35:51 AM »
So I started a new league this year at a local house. The lanes are pretty dry compared to other leagues I've been in. It was suggested by someone I know well in bowling to pick up the Arson Low Flare Solid for a dryer shot. So I bought it. I told the guy at the pro-shop I needed it to be non-aggressive so it won't hook that much on a dry shot. This is the pro-shop in the bowling alley I am bowling at so he knows how dry the lanes are. He drilled it with the pin centered above the fingers. I threw it on that shot and can't seem to keep it on the lane. I rev it quite a bit but my speed only stays around 15-15.50. So I'm about average or just below in speed. So I actually resorted back to my old Storm Eraser and I'm hitting the shot quite well. The problem is, the Eraser is old as dirt and has been resurfaced many times. I really need to find a ball that will react the same. I'm standing about 25 and throwing it around 16. It's hitting out to about 10 and coming up nicely. Anyone recommend a ball that would react about the same? I've considered the Storm Pitch Black but I don't want to buy another ball that isn't going to work for me. Any suggestions? Any make is ok with me honestly. I've always bowled better with Storm products but I'm not committed to Storm by any means. Thanks guys!

 

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2015, 06:34:25 AM »
So I took my Eraser into the pro-shop the other day to get "rejuvenated". Well, I find out that the serial # is completely gone from the ball. can't find it to re-engrave it. The logo of the ball is pretty much all gone. I talked to the guy filling in for the regular guy there about the Super Natural. His response is "you don't want that. that's a urethane. It won't hook at all for you". Now I'm very rev friendly. I throw the ball on average 15mph and rev it quite a bit. I'm sure I can get some hook out of it. But he was very against me getting it. He suggested I check out a Tropical Breeze instead. But he also, in the past, drilled a Tropical Heat for me but said he had to drill it strong so I'd get some hook out of it. Well, I couldn't keep it on the lane because it hooked so much. I just don't know what to do. Everything I suggest to them they say won't work for me.
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2015, 07:22:27 AM »
Oh and as a caveat to that info, I ended up throwing plastic last night because they dried up so bad. I was standing at 15 and throwing out to 10 and it was coming back to the pocket. I don't care for throwing plastic bc they just don't hit like my other balls but it was the only ball I didn't have to swing 20 boards last night. I can make plastic hook but he says I won't be able to make the Super Natural hook. lol

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2015, 08:08:44 AM »
The SuperNatural is definitely a step up from plastic.  If you are having trouble with equipment hooking too much, here is what I would do.  I would start with your plastic and move up from there.  Get one ball at a time until you reach a point where you have no use for the next step up.  For example:

1.  Plastic (ball with core would be most beneficial)
2.  Either regular urethane or Super Natural.  The Super Natural will be a bit stronger than a regular urethane, or the shape will be different.
3.  Low end reactive such as the RG Shout (preferably) or Scream.  Even the Storm Tropical Breeze could be an option.  Shout is a solid and would be a great first ball out and you can go down from there.

Based on what I have heard from you, this may be all you ever need.  If you are able to either reduce your rev rate or increase your speed, then a re-evaluation would be needed.  Or if you happen upon a different center with more oil.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2015, 09:30:05 AM »
I appreciate the advice! That's great information. I was using a Hammer Spider Web last night. It sat right up into the pocket but just hit bad. I know that ball isn't made to hit hard but I need something maybe a bit stronger but also has a core for it to hit better. I'm thinking my next step would be a Super Natural at this point. Would you agree?

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2015, 10:41:48 AM »
I was using a Roto Grip Crown (plastic) and although I could get it to the pocket, the carry was horrible.  Splits galore.  I have a rg grenade and a Super Natural and they do hook on dry lanes with the SN going longer with a stronger backend.  The Grenade turns early.
I am going to try the "in-between" ball.  I just picked up a Hammer True Blood, a polyester ball with a Blood core.  Had it drilled up but didn't get a chance to throw it yet.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2015, 12:17:28 PM »
I can't think of too many other options at this point.  Have you tried to scuff up your plastic yet?  Adding some surface can also give you some added performance, though it would be only a little.

Typically, the "weakest" resin is the Storm Tropical Breeze.  Everything else is just a tad bit stronger.  Next step down is urethane which can be too early for a lot of people.  There are pearl urethanes that help in delaying the early hook, but just a little.  The Super Natural is a mix between the two, weak resin mixed with urethane.  It will be stronger than urethane but will also give a more resin-like reaction that most people are used to seeing.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #37 on: March 13, 2015, 12:56:14 PM »
I am also having issues with my favorite place being dry all the time now.  I am considering the upcoming Storm Ride.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #38 on: March 13, 2015, 04:09:56 PM »
900 Global Desert Hook. Weak reactive ball that hits very good. Unusual combination. 

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2015, 08:16:57 PM »
I am also having issues with my favorite place being dry all the time now.  I am considering the upcoming Storm Ride.

The Ride seems to use the same coverstock as the Tropical Breeze (but in hybrid form) and stronger core than the one in the Trop. Breeze.
See https://www.stormbowling.com/products/balls/ride
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2015, 11:02:18 PM »
So is the Pitch Black actually weaker then?  The dry is just killing me.  I'm just not good enough to move 10+ boards left of normal.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2015, 11:46:34 PM »
I think the storm pitch black is pretty strong. The storm tropical breeze is what I would suggest for you. I use to be 15 mph and high rev thumb less and the tropicalbreeze would go long and very smooth in the back even tho its dry. You can Prolly play 11 board with it and go inside to 15  if you want its a great ball.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2015, 07:41:57 AM »
If they are really dry, I use my Hammer True Blood, but I recently picked up a Columbia Deep Freeze and it works  and carries alot better than the True Blood.

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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2015, 08:08:11 AM »
So is the Pitch Black actually weaker then?  The dry is just killing me.  I'm just not good enough to move 10+ boards left of normal.

Try moving just 2 or 3 boards, as a start, and keeping the same target as a way to start learning. All it requires other than the move with your feet is to change the angle of your body and shoulders, so you're still pointing at the target.

Even owning 8 or 15 balls is not going to allow you to play the same line in every league in every house in every tournament.
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2015, 02:53:12 PM »
Track Spare+ has the asymmetrical core similar to the LX16 line and I love mine for 10 pins and it does flare just over 2" or so! Just my $.02, Bruce
http://www.ballreviews.com/track/spare-t302742.0.html
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Re: Good ball for a dry house shot
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2015, 04:49:38 PM »
I did test a Super Natural this afternoon, and it allowed to me stand where I wanted on a dry lane but it had very little power.