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Dogtown

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Greater Tulsa Open Oil Pattern
« on: August 05, 2014, 01:50:56 PM »
Does anyone know the oil pattern typically used at Andy B's and Broken Arrow for the Greater Tulsa Open?

I appreciate any information you guys can provide.

 

JBracer2

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Re: Greater Tulsa Open Oil Pattern
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2014, 08:27:07 PM »
I think its a modified house pattern.

chrisleftwich

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Re: Greater Tulsa Open Oil Pattern
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 07:16:06 AM »
Last year was pretty much just a house shot at both houses. 
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txbowler

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Re: Greater Tulsa Open Oil Pattern
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2014, 02:06:22 PM »
Andy B's (Team) is usually wide open house shot.

Broken Arrow tends to be a little tougher and drier.

Dogtown

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Re: Greater Tulsa Open Oil Pattern
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2014, 02:33:18 PM »
My experience is that Andy B's is drier and Broken Arrow is closer to a house shot.

Andy B's always feels like a lighter volume shot which causes the heads to go away faster.

t1buck

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Re: Greater Tulsa Open Oil Pattern
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2014, 04:56:00 PM »
Thats what we have found in the past. Andy B's plays dry even on the first squad (Plastic was hooking at the arrows). Broken arrow plays like a THS.   Over half of the group I travel with 2 years ago did not go back including me.  The group was 40 people from one association. The guys that puts it together I think only got 15 people to go last year.

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Re: Greater Tulsa Open Oil Pattern
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2014, 08:09:03 PM »
Watched Jeremy Hunt have no issues shooting 750, 730ish on back to back squads of team event at Andy B's last year so it comes down to ability. We bowled the 1pm squad I believe last year and I thought I had a pretty good shot if it wasn't for one bad game. Hunt was on that squad bowling his second set of team.

People talk about sport conditions and wanting more of it. Dry conditions seems to have the same affect for a lot of bowlers.

Then because the conditions are too tough those bowlers don't come back. Or if the conditions are too easy and scores are too high those bowlers don't come back. There is a trend. Bowlers are fickle at best.
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txbowler

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Re: Greater Tulsa Open Oil Pattern
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2014, 02:34:34 PM »
Thats what we have found in the past. Andy B's plays dry even on the first squad (Plastic was hooking at the arrows). Broken arrow plays like a THS.   Over half of the group I travel with 2 years ago did not go back including me.  The group was 40 people from one association. The guys that puts it together I think only got 15 people to go last year.

One of the guys we bowl with lives in Tulsa and bowls at both places.  It's the house shot for both houses.  Broken arrow has more oil across the lane (less outside dry boards) and less hold on pulled shots, while Andy's is drier outside, there is more oil and hold inside.

At Andy's, the cranker's get deep and bounce the dry.  If you are more of a straight stroker and play up the boards, catching the dry early is a problem.  Don't have to move much as the oil holds up well.

At Broken arrow, there is less head oil and most of the good scoring I have seen is playing outside to start and migrating in as the oil dissipates.   Lots of adjustments necessary as the oil transitions quickly there.

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Re: Greater Tulsa Open Oil Pattern
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2014, 08:43:02 PM »
I will also say that the guys that did go last year a tournament director ask why the group had got so small. An they told them nobody wanted to bowl at Andy B (it plays to dry). Some of your guys can hit but I am a right hand tweener and 2 years ago I was standing left ditch (7pin) and throwing 4th  arrow with plastic.  There was a lot of people complaining that morning about the condition.    This last year tournament The Director told them that Andy B got a new machine and they where trying to lay the same shot in each house.