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suhoney24

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I need a heavy heavy oil ball...
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:03:51 PM »
Can someone please recommend a really good ball for when they are super heavy? I have tried everything and nothing wants to move all...straight as an arrow not matter where I move or what line I try...so far I have tried a deadly aim sanded to 500, crazy antics at 1000, widow assassin at box, original dude at 2000 and a vibe envy at 360...I have medium rev...

Was looking at a...cruel intent, original mastermind or a marvel s

 

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Re: I need a heavy heavy oil ball...
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2014, 03:17:40 AM »
I was told tonight its not a very heavy pattern...just a lot longer then last year...38 feet versus 42 this year

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Re: I need a heavy heavy oil ball...
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2014, 05:42:16 AM »
42 ft of oil, even fully flat, would not make the ball go 60ft. It would be better in my opinion to get a coach to watch you bowl on this pattern and make suggestions. You don't really have anything too strong in the bag but with 42ft, you shouldn't be trying to cover boards and you exit point should be 11 at 42 ft. No further out. It sounds to me like you're trying to cover boards on a pattern that isn't meant to do so. What are your stats?
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Re: I need a heavy heavy oil ball...
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2014, 05:49:29 AM »
I agree that 42 ft isn't that long of a pattern.
Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen anywhere in the postings about where on the lane are you trying to play?
Are you trying to swing the lane, playing out by the ditch?
Where?
Are both lefties and righties having the same issues?

Just trying to get some more info to help get some ideas on how to help you out.
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Re: I need a heavy heavy oil ball...
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2014, 07:16:26 AM »
I agree that 42 ft isn't that long of a pattern.
Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen anywhere in the postings about where on the lane are you trying to play?
Are you trying to swing the lane, playing out by the ditch?
Where?
Are both lefties and righties having the same issues?

Just trying to get some more info to help get some ideas on how to help you out.

Great points. That's where I'm trying to go with my post. I've been on the lanes where the machine laid out oil to the pin deck. That's the only way the ball is going "straight as an arrow". I especially didn't pay attention to his post about the surfaces on his equipment. 360 on an entry level ball will make the ball hook at your feet and do nothing else. 500 on your deadly aim will make it dead. So that's where I would I would start.

That's why you need to find out if the shot's going to continuously put out during that league. That way you know it's going to be something you're going to HAVE to deal with. So then you work on you. What are your stats? What do you do when your ball doesn't hook? Do you tighten up? Do you become more inaccurate? T

hen that's where a coach comes in and works with those issues because as I continue to regurgitate "oil is the ultimate test of skill". Then you can work with your equipment. Working with surfaces that work for you on that pattern. Layouts and weight holes that help you on that pattern. It may just be that you need a pearl that bleeds slower rather than a oiler that soaks up what little oil you have left. Just my opinion on how I'd attack it.
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Re: I need a heavy heavy oil ball...
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2014, 07:51:39 AM »
I agree with several other replies, it sounds like the problem is how you (and others) are playing the lanes.  I know just balling up or down has become the norm these days, but some conditions just require more skill than that.  Instead of changing balls, or buying a ball to beat the condition, learn how to play it.  You said a couple of guys that play straighter normally aren't having any issues.  I would take a look at what kind of a line/gear they are playing, and try to emulate it.  Remember, it's not how many boards your ball hooks, it's where your ball hooks.  If the shot is only giving you 3 boards of hook, your goal should be to have that 3 board hook finish into the pocket.

I had a chance to bowl on the Badger pattern this summer, and was able to score very well.  Using a stronger ball wasn't the key, in fact I found my Tropical Breeze to work best.  What worked was keeping the ball very tight to the pocket, and letting what little backend I was getting finish into the pocket.
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Re: I need a heavy heavy oil ball...
« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2014, 10:44:33 AM »
A lot of pretty good bowlers would agree with you Eddie.