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Is this a 300?
« on: March 17, 2013, 01:11:41 PM »
Fellow bowler hit the first 10, fouled the last 2 while striking ( I'm talking about 6-10 inches beyond foul line).  Buzzer did not go off, lane manager forgot to turn it on............

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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2013, 07:18:27 AM »
Buddy,
You have shown yourself here and in other places to be a tool.  Actually, the only reason you came into this thread is to troll when you saw my name.

All you need know is everybody in this thread said it's not a 300, the local association said it's not a 300, and the USBC said it's not a 300.  You just chew on that while you attempt to develop some character and a sense of honesty.

I'm not addressing this topic anymore.  I'm sure you'll get the last word in, it's what trolls like you do.
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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2013, 10:42:58 AM »
NOT A 300!

 I don't care how many anarchistic egalitarians come on here and carp about how we should just turn our heads and let him have it.

 He fouled. Doesn't matter if it was six inches or six feet, it was a foul. It the foul line was only meant to be 59 1/2 feet from the pins, then that is what it would be for EVERYONE.

 If not, then how far over the line IS ok? Six inches? Sixty inches? Sixty feet? How about if we start to just let people walk down to the pins and knock them over with a broom and call it a strike?

 If he hasn't bowled a 300 in over 30 years, then there is a REASON he hasn't, and it is called not being good enough. Not everybody puts enough effort into learning the game and practicing it to become good enough to be able to shoot a 300 game. Are we supposed to start awarding them to everybody that fits that category, just because they've been at it a long time?

 I would be standing behind, and rooting for this guy. I would be there hoping against hope that he somehow finds a way to make it. And I would be one of the first to congratulate him on his achievement if he were to make it, but I would ALSO expect him to follow every rule.
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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #48 on: March 23, 2013, 10:49:31 AM »
A few years ago we had a similar thing happen...

Foul lights were not on...I do believe if foul lights are not on...Then the two
team captains are responsible for calling fouls...

Now another bowler a FEW lanes over said the bowler on our lane fouled...

However, his 300 game was honored...by the then former ABC...Their ruling
was that it is up to the captains of the two teams to call the foul if foul lights
are now working...

Question...Did the captains of the two teams call or see the foul?

I believe you said the bowler went over the foul line by 6  to 10 inches...twice??
Can't speak for your lanes...But around here if you go over the foul line by that
much, one would need to clean one's shoes before throwing the next ball...

Also, since he was on 10 in a row...Around here most of the house would stop
bowling and be watching...Hard to believe that if most of the house was
watching him throw the last two shots, that no one would be calling such
an obvious foul...6-10 inches...

Second question...Did the bowler deny he fouled?   Sounds like he did...

« Last Edit: March 23, 2013, 10:53:52 AM by jls »

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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #49 on: March 23, 2013, 11:07:40 AM »
I'm a little late to the game on this, but having read it & giving some thought, I have to question it... So what is the real intention of posting this thread...?  Is this a "confession" thread?  A thread you intend to show the "300" performer?  Trying to right the wrong?  Just trying to figure the purpose for a thread like this... especially after you admittedly witnessed the infractions & ensuing celebration.  I don't get why, I guess.

I think once you folks let the fouls go, then that is when you all decided it's a 300.  You can't go talking & backtracking now... It sounds a little like sour grapes.  The ole line "or forever your hold your peace" seems to apply...  The time to stand up was the time of the 1st infraction, let alone 2nd.  The 2nd one you all should have said, okay wait a minute.. 1 slide? But 2? 
EXACTLY PIKE.... Having watched about a "zillion" 300 games being shot...
"a zillion, that's a lot"   I agree...How in the world can someone foul by that much
without causing a major uproar...Like I said...Around here...Most of the house stops
bowling and zooms in on someone going for a 300...

Just hard to believe that with so many people watching, that more people didn't
cry out FOUL...

And then for this to happen a second time....6-10 inches past...

I'm sorry,  but that just does not make any sense...

I have seen people cry out foul on a bowler a fraction over the line...

6-10"   Can't believe the whole house didn't see that...

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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #50 on: March 23, 2013, 11:30:39 AM »
NOT A 300!

 I don't care how many anarchistic egalitarians come on here and carp about how we should just turn our heads and let him have it.

 He fouled. Doesn't matter if it was six inches or six feet, it was a foul. It the foul line was only meant to be 59 1/2 feet from the pins, then that is what it would be for EVERYONE.

 If not, then how far over the line IS ok? Six inches? Sixty inches? Sixty feet? How about if we start to just let people walk down to the pins and knock them over with a broom and call it a strike?

 If he hasn't bowled a 300 in over 30 years, then there is a REASON he hasn't, and it is called not being good enough. Not everybody puts enough effort into learning the game and practicing it to become good enough to be able to shoot a 300 game. Are we supposed to start awarding them to everybody that fits that category, just because they've been at it a long time?

 I would be standing behind, and rooting for this guy. I would be there hoping against hope that he somehow finds a way to make it. And I would be one of the first to congratulate him on his achievement if he were to make it, but I would ALSO expect him to follow every rule.

Seriously, Juggsy, can you believe some of the excuse makers?  Obviously, the sport means absolutely nothing to them.   
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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #51 on: March 23, 2013, 01:19:46 PM »
It's not a sport, it's recreation.
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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2013, 01:20:59 PM »

I'm not addressing this topic anymore.  I'm sure you'll get the last word in, it's what trolls like you do.



Seriously, Juggsy, can you believe some of the excuse makers?  Obviously, the sport means absolutely nothing to them.   

Nice.  You think way too highly of yourself if you think I give a damn what you think about anything.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2013, 01:23:22 PM by Joe Cool »
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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2013, 09:05:05 PM »
NOT A 300!

 I don't care how many anarchistic egalitarians come on here and carp about how we should just turn our heads and let him have it.

 He fouled. Doesn't matter if it was six inches or six feet, it was a foul. It the foul line was only meant to be 59 1/2 feet from the pins, then that is what it would be for EVERYONE.

 If not, then how far over the line IS ok? Six inches? Sixty inches? Sixty feet? How about if we start to just let people walk down to the pins and knock them over with a broom and call it a strike?

 If he hasn't bowled a 300 in over 30 years, then there is a REASON he hasn't, and it is called not being good enough. Not everybody puts enough effort into learning the game and practicing it to become good enough to be able to shoot a 300 game. Are we supposed to start awarding them to everybody that fits that category, just because they've been at it a long time?

 I would be standing behind, and rooting for this guy. I would be there hoping against hope that he somehow finds a way to make it. And I would be one of the first to congratulate him on his achievement if he were to make it, but I would ALSO expect him to follow every rule.

Seriously, Juggsy, can you believe some of the excuse makers?  Obviously, the sport means absolutely nothing to them.   

 While you and I can have differing viewpoints at times, it appears that this is one of those sticking points that we agree on. Thank you.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2013, 09:08:21 PM by Juggernaut »
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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2013, 08:28:31 AM »
I'm at the Southern Bowling Congress tournament in Chattanooga, TN. We watched the foul light go off on the same guy 10 times yesterday and he swore up and down he didn't cross the line. The buzzer and light would go off but the computer never scored it as a Foul. He was a few lanes down so none of my group could really ever remember to watch if he was actually fouling or not but Odd how no one else had any trouble with it. Im not sure of his average but He shot about 750.

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Re: Is this a 300?
« Reply #55 on: March 24, 2013, 12:58:45 PM »
Pathetic that a tournament director didn't set up a foul line judge.  I always defend the integrity of bowling, looks like the integrity of the bowlers is something to be more concerned with. 
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