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Gizmo823

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Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« on: January 06, 2014, 08:29:44 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfuRaHrpogE

For those that haven't seen it or heard of it yet.  I don't know how much it costs, but the results appear to be there. 
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MrNickRo

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2014, 09:26:00 AM »
Dang that looks intense. Looks like the future to me - if the price is right!

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Hoselrockets

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2014, 10:02:01 AM »
agree it looks like a must have if the price is right....
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JohnP

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2014, 11:27:38 AM »
Price listed on the Jayhawk website is $1,795.  --  JohnP
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Steven

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2014, 12:20:58 PM »
At $1795, it's not ready for personal use prime time.  :)


It's interesting that they say it doesn't heat the ball beyond 125 degrees, which they claim is the threshold for a safe oil extraction. And they say the dishwasher method and hot water baths   exceed 125 degrees and can be dangerous to the coverstock.


In any case, maybe the price point for this technology will come down in few years. It does look like it has promise.
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charlest

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2014, 12:39:41 PM »
Quote from: Steven on January 06, 2014, 12:20:58 PM
At $1795, it's not ready for personal use prime time.  :)


It's interesting that they say it doesn't heat the ball beyond 125 degrees, which they claim is the threshold for a safe oil extraction. And they say the dishwasher method and hot water baths   exceed 125 degrees and can be dangerous to the coverstock.

But that's not necessarily true. It all depends on the temperature of your water heater!
Sounds like a misleading sales pitch.

Aside:
What happened to 140 degrees being the maximum allowable bowling ball temperature? It had been that for years. When did the change come along and who validated it?
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Steven

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2014, 12:44:30 PM »
Quote from: charlest on January 06, 2014, 12:39:41 PM

But that's not necessarily true. It all depends on the temperature of your water heater!
Sounds like a misleading sales pitch.

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What happened to 140 degrees being the maximum allowable bowling ball temperature? It had been that for years. When did the change come along and who validated it?


Definitely some marketing going on. Still, how hot does the enclosed area of a dishwasher get?? It has to be somewhat hotter than the temperature of the water.


As to your aside, I've heard so many numbers toss around, I'm not sure anyone knows for sure.
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JayhawkBowling

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2014, 01:04:48 PM »
Steven,

The Detox is designed with manufacturer warranties in mind.  Some companies have a 125 degree threshold and others have 140 degrees.  Just look on the boxes of the bowling balls and they will have warranty temp ranges that a ball needs to stay in.    When the balls get warmer than these temps the ball runs the risk of cracking and releasing Plasticizer (Not a good thing).  The Ultrasonic waves are designed to pretty much scrub underneath the cover stock in a safer and faster way, unlike other methods that just use extreme heat and have no way of penetrating the covers.   Another nice feature is the ability to change the temp using a temp control on the Detox if the operator feels it necessary.

This machine is designed for Pro shop use and the ROI does not take very long.  Our first test site several months ago doubled his investment in his first 2 months. 

This is the next generation for deep cleaning and oil removal that bowlers and pro shop operators are going to love.
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JayhawkBowling

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2014, 01:07:47 PM »
Quote from: charlest on January 06, 2014, 12:39:41 PM
Quote from: Steven on January 06, 2014, 12:20:58 PM
At $1795, it's not ready for personal use prime time.  :)


It's interesting that they say it doesn't heat the ball beyond 125 degrees, which they claim is the threshold for a safe oil extraction. And they say the dishwasher method and hot water baths   exceed 125 degrees and can be dangerous to the coverstock.

But that's not necessarily true. It all depends on the temperature of your water heater!
Sounds like a misleading sales pitch.

Aside:
What happened to 140 degrees being the maximum allowable bowling ball temperature? It had been that for years. When did the change come along and who validated it?


for instance Brunswick, DV8, and Radical have a 125 degree threshold while Storm and Roto Grip have a 140 degree threshold.  It is stated on every ball box.
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charlest

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2014, 01:22:44 PM »
Quote from: JayhawkBowling on January 06, 2014, 01:07:47 PM
Quote from: charlest on January 06, 2014, 12:39:41 PM
Quote from: Steven on January 06, 2014, 12:20:58 PM
At $1795, it's not ready for personal use prime time.  :)


It's interesting that they say it doesn't heat the ball beyond 125 degrees, which they claim is the threshold for a safe oil extraction. And they say the dishwasher method and hot water baths   exceed 125 degrees and can be dangerous to the coverstock.

But that's not necessarily true. It all depends on the temperature of your water heater!
Sounds like a misleading sales pitch.

Aside:
What happened to 140 degrees being the maximum allowable bowling ball temperature? It had been that for years. When did the change come along and who validated it?


for instance Brunswick, DV8, and Radical have a 125 degree threshold while Storm and Roto Grip have a 140 degree threshold.  It is stated on every ball box.

Accepted, but since 95% of the time implementation of any warranty is virtually at the whim of the manufacturer or the distributor, we can hardly take the statement of such factors in that warrant as statement of fact. Indeed, since Brunswick and Storm differ as to the temperature limitations, there is no standard. If you choose to stay under a 125 degree limit, it will meet their "stated" warranty requirements.
Still you shouldn't say all hot water baths are too hot.
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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2014, 01:25:17 PM »
Quote from: JayhawkBowling on January 06, 2014, 01:04:48 PM
Steven,

The Detox is designed with manufacturer warranties in mind.  Some companies have a 125 degree threshold and others have 140 degrees.  Just look on the boxes of the bowling balls and they will have warranty temp ranges that a ball needs to stay in.


Jayhawk, thanks for the information. I went out and checked one of my Storm boxes, and sure enough, it says 140 degrees. I checked one of my Motiv boxes and it says 125 degrees.


I guess there is some useful information in the fine print on those boxes.  :)
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dballz

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2014, 01:52:23 PM »
JayhawkBowling, is it available for pro shops to purchase now or is there a release date available? I work part time for a shop & they may be very interested in trying it out. Thanks
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JayhawkBowling

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2014, 02:52:31 PM »
dballz,

As of January 1st the Detox is available for purchase for Pro Shops.

Regards,
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dballz

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2014, 10:43:46 AM »
Thank you!
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Long Gone Daddy

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Re: Jayhawk Detox, check it out!
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2014, 03:08:19 PM »
Gosh. Who knew that a water medium with some kind of way to penetrate the pores would be the next generation of ball cleaner?

Guess us dishwasher fans knew what we were doing. BTW, before somebody chimes in and says water in the home can be hotter, not according to most building codes which either require a water heater not to go above 120 F or require a anti-scald valve which will mix cold water with hot to achieve a 120 F or below water temp out of tap.

To the fan of the light bulb/dehydrator method who actually thinks a dishwasher can get hotter than the the tap water temp. All Laws of Thermodynamics aside, not if you turn the "sanitize" feature off (if your dishwasher even has one).
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