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Zanatos1914

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Left Hand Layout for Right hander
« on: November 08, 2011, 07:36:19 AM »
Has anybody considered drilling a ball left handed even though they are right handed for extreme dry lanes... 


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Re: Left Hand Layout for Right hander
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 04:45:31 PM »
 There is no such thing. You can have a long pin to pap, that places the pin, cg, or mass bias to the left of the center line (for a righty) but there is no such thing as a "lefty drill for a right handed" unless your grip is supposed to be different!

That being said, long pin to pap layouts work great for getting the ball down the lane, and in symmetrical balls, reduces flare. I use long pins because of my ball speed. Right now, I only have one ball with a pin at 4 inches, then the rest are 4.5 to 5.5 inches from pap. I use surface (most important) and MB placement (next important) to tweak the rest of the reaction.

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Re: Left Hand Layout for Right hander
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2011, 05:32:22 PM »
I don't know about "No such thing" or not, but I have seen quite a few right handed bowlers who have their ball drilled as if they were lefty. We refer to them as Backup bowlers and they play the left side of the lane just like the left handed bowlers. I can say that I have yet to see one who was very good at it though.
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Re: Left Hand Layout for Right hander
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2011, 03:05:13 AM »
 



milorafferty wrote on 08.11.2011 6:32 PM:I don't know about "No such thing" or not, but I have seen quite a few right handed bowlers who have their ball drilled as if they were lefty.
That's a bit nonsense - or at least confusing to the reader. A layout may LOOK like as if the ball had been drilled for the wrong hand, but pin, CG and MB placement are still relative to the individual PAP. Esp. weak layouts for low trackers can look as if the ball had been drilled for the other hand, with the pin ending up on the "wrong" side of the fingers. But that's not a lefty drilling - in fact, a reversed layout would hardly fit, with spans and pitches the other way around...?

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Re: Left Hand Layout for Right hander
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2011, 07:29:42 AM »
 I'm going to get some ruffing for this but read carefully.

I'm a lefty bowler with a ton of bowling balls.  I use right and lefty drilled balls as long as there r no weight holes near my track area using either ball doesn't matter.  I also have bowled 300 games with both type balls.  Having a ball that is drilled for the opposite hand gives me more overall movement down lane.  Lefty balls r my overall hook control balls.
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Re: Left Hand Layout for Right hander
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2011, 07:40:40 AM »
The biggest issue I would see would be pin placements.

 

Pins on the wrong side of the track could cause the ball to flare over the grip.

 

But pins on the track and negative weights could produce a very even ball reaction and might work on very dry conditions.


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Re: Left Hand Layout for Right hander
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2011, 09:00:54 AM »
What does span and pitch have to do with it??
 
When I refer to a "lefty drilling", I mean with the typical layout style (pin placement in relation to the finger holes) you might see with a left handed bowler. I have no doubt that there are some right handed bowlers who need the pin, CG and MB to the left of the finger holes, but that isn't going to be a drilling many bowlers use. 
 
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milorafferty wrote on 08.11.2011 6:32 PM:I don't know about "No such thing" or not, but I have seen quite a few right handed bowlers who have their ball drilled as if they were lefty.
That's a bit nonsense - or at least confusing to the reader. A layout may LOOK like as if the ball had been drilled for the wrong hand, but pin, CG and MB placement are still relative to the individual PAP. Esp. weak layouts for low trackers can look as if the ball had been drilled for the other hand, with the pin ending up on the "wrong" side of the fingers. But that's not a lefty drilling - in fact, a reversed layout would hardly fit, with spans and pitches the other way around...?

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Re: Left Hand Layout for Right hander
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2011, 11:42:56 AM »
Pin-to-Pap is only relevant up to 6-3/4" from the Pap.  If you area righty bowling with a ball that is drilled with a "lefty" layout, you could still have a very strong layout.  That is because the Pin to PAP distance is no longer relevant; instead, you would look at the Pin to NAP (negative axis point, directly on the other side of the ball from the PAP).  A drilling with the Pin 4" from the NAP would is equal in strength to a drilling with the Pin 4" from the PAP, but the track will be inverted and you could have issues rolling over your thumb hole.

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