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Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« on: December 10, 2008, 11:00:04 PM »
Well my game has come to a sad state where I gotta ask others how to make the 10-pin.  Yesterday was a total disaster and I cost my team the 1st half of the season.  As anchor I needed to pick up the 10 pin to win.  I missed it far left and we lost by 4 pins. (10th frame).  I wound up with only a 602 series with a high of only 212.

I have tried 2 different spare balls (one with finger tip inserts and slug and one with the bare finger tip drilling).  I have tried standing in the middle and throwing it hard and straight (looks good when I make it, but when I miss it looks bad).  I have tried standing in the left gutter and missing it.  

I can't seem to get a technique that works consistently.

HELP ME!
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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2008, 08:24:53 AM »
First, get comfortable shooting at it. A long time ago, I used to miss it all the time.  One day, I got mad and filled a score sheet (when we still had to write our own scores) just shooting at nothing but the 10 pin.  I think it was 10 or 12 games to a sheet.  I was in a non-competitive environment (no pressure) and learned to relax and hit the pin.  Now, I would rather shoot the 10 pin than any other leave.  I am so confident now in my ability to cover the 10 pin I'd rather shoot at it than a 5 pin!

Also, shooting cross alley from the left side of the lane (for a righty) increases your margin for error.  Think about it.  If you're shooting straight down the 1 board, your margin for error is what, 1 board, maybe 2? You have to either hit the pin dead center, or to the left - to the right you're in the ditch.   By standing left and shooting over the 4th or 5th arrow, you have the width of the pin plus the width of your ball x 2.  Think about it, you can hit the pin dead center, on the left side, or on the right side (just before the ball hits the ditch).

Personally, I like to throw plastic at it and take friction out of the equation.  Some tips I have read say to "dump" the ball with no follow through, but I prefer to keep the same follow through, throw plastic, and flatten the wrist - come straight up the back of the ball (think end-over-end roll with 0 side tilt).

Oh, and relax.  DO NOT try to increase speed or force the ball into the corner, as the other measures you've taken will keep the ball from hooking off target.  Also, throwing harder is more likely to throw your timing off a tad and result in an errant shot. It's only one pin - you could roll a 4 lb ball 1 mph and knock it over, so hitting it harder is unnecessary.  Stay relaxed, loosen your swing, and just get the ball to the target.  It's as easy as that.

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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2008, 08:28:14 AM »
Also, you can start your pushaway a bit towards the right - toward the 10 pin rather than straight out.  This can help get your ball to target if you're consistently missing to the left.

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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2008, 08:56:10 AM »
Become one with the 10 pin "Grasshopper" meditation is the key. And remember, the majority of bowlers miss the board or mark they think they are hitting by 1-3 boards on every shot so factor that in depending on which side you miss it on the most.
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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2008, 08:58:42 AM »
Or be like Gazoo and be "Rev Challenged"!

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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2008, 09:17:01 AM »
Which is why I can fire plastic up the 2 board.
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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2008, 09:53:05 AM »
Pick a method and stay with it.  I suggest plastic thrown straight and cross lane, but whatever you choose stay with it unless you can't make it work.  Then PRACTICE.  As others have said, throw game after game just shooting at the 10 pin spot, eventually you'll get comfortable.  Then any night you miss over one 10 pin, back to a PRACTICE session.  --  JohnP

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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2008, 10:22:34 AM »
Thanks for tips.  I really let my team down the past few weeks.  I need to use all practice time on the 10 pin from now on.  There is no need for me to throw a strike ball in practice.  My strike ball depending on lane condition differs very little so I don't know what I am practicing for anyways.  My 10 pin % is absolutely horrible.  I think my strike % is higher than my 10 pin % LOL.  It actually might be!  I average around 7 strikes a game.  I miss the 10 pin like 3 out of 4 tries LOL!!!


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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2008, 10:23:11 AM »
Funny...all those "boring" bowlers seem to pick up the 10 pin without too much trouble...

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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2008, 10:39:56 AM »
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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2008, 10:46:46 AM »
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Funny...all those "boring" bowlers seem to pick up the 10 pin without too much trouble...

Yeah I want WRW/Duke's spare ball but I don't want their strike ball hehe.  I like my strike ball.
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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2008, 11:12:50 AM »
Just another quick tip that might help. I stand 32, line my body and feet toward the ten pin and walk toward my target which is the 4th arrow. I have had people aim for the reflection of the pin on the lane and it has helped them hit it allot. Give it a shot, it helps you project the ball down the lane.

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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2008, 11:19:58 AM »
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Funny...all those "boring" bowlers seem to pick up the 10 pin without too much trouble...
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Yeah I want WRW/Duke's spare ball but I don't want their strike ball hehe. I like my strike ball.
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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2008, 11:41:00 AM »
This is my nemesis pin also, still suck at them but have gotten slightly better at them. Most of it for me is having too closed of shoulders, which causes me to chicken wing the ball left or dump it short in the gutter right.

I have had streaks of no misses for a 3 week period then I have had nights of 6 opens in 3 games from 10 pins misses. Most of the time it is shoulders getting in the way of just coming through your target and rolling the ball not throwing the ball at it.

Being a strong guy upper body wise I tend to over throw it and dump it within inches short on many of the near misses.

Target board 19 like already stated above in your thread and position your feet from 40 to maybe 35 or so. depends on how wide your body is really and then keep you eyes down and roll it over target 19-20 and you will make 90 percent plus of them.

You will have bad days and good but more good days going straight and cross lane, best thing to do is get up and just roll it not thinking oh i have to make it or we lose in 10 th frames.

Edited on 12/11/2008 12:42 PM

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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2008, 12:11:50 PM »
Ive recently found that my plastic doesnt get used anymore, I have an old faball nail(original) that I can use for strike ball off the dry and I can actually roll it straighter and more consistant than my plastic. Lastly something I found work for me(I have a high backswing) is to shorten it to only my waist or so and it seems to really allow me to keep lined up for the 10 pins and Ive increased my spare percentage a ton since making these 2 small changes.

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Re: Making the 10 - Pin (Help Please)
« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2008, 02:38:15 PM »
can i suggest?
you point your toes towards the 10pin direction walk straight and just let the spare ball go straight,back to basics of using your elbow as the guide make sure your follow tru is all the way until your palm passes tru the top of the 10pin,sud be able to clear this way.
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