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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: BeerLeague on May 30, 2018, 07:44:05 AM
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Well, since the wizards of smart at the USBC have outlawed weight holes because the two handlers have bent the rules for years, its time I started bending them myself..... my new Idol will be drilled without a weight hole and 3 oz of top and side so it conforms to their awesome new rules. I am not drilling anything with the intention of having to plug it back up in a year. It's the stupidest rule I have ever heard of.
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I'm picking up a Hyper Cell Fuzed today.....no weight hole. I'm going to keep the statics within the current rules to ensure it's good for Nationals this year as well as going forward. I'm taking the same general approach though, being mindful of the future.
Surface is king! Any adjustments I need to make will be to the surface.....I'm going to crack the surface to 3000 before I even throw the first shot and adjust from there.
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Just don't bowl anything that has decent money up for grabs and is sanctioned.
I agree it's dumb that the new rules have been set and announced but can't fully conform to it for 2 years
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Just don't bowl anything that has decent money up for grabs and is sanctioned.
I agree it's dumb that the new rules have been set and announced but can't fully confirm to it for 2 years
Yep ball stash time. I wonder how hard it is to get drillers to drill a ball that would be illegal today but legal in the future. I bet some would be hesitant to do it. That eight months is going to really suck for getting anything done by the PSOs. Pretty sure will wait for after the rush before I get anything plugged if I ever do.
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This is the dumbest logic I've seen in some time. You're blatantly breaking the rules now because you're too cheap to buy a new ball in 2 years? Bowlers are the biggest divas...
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This is the dumbest logic I've seen in some time. You're blatantly breaking the rules now because you're too cheap to buy a new ball in 2 years? Bowlers are the biggest divas...
Lol, right? Just embarrassing.
It’s not very hard to drill a ball with no hole that conforms to current and future rules.
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This is the dumbest logic I've seen in some time. You're blatantly breaking the rules now because you're too cheap to buy a new ball in 2 years? Bowlers are the biggest divas...
Lol, right? Just embarrassing.
It’s not very hard to drill a ball with no hole that conforms to current and future rules.
It's like the point of my post never even landed.
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. my new Idol will be drilled without a weight hole and 3 oz of top and side so it conforms to their awesome new rules.
If you don't want a hole that's fine , but Why drill it at the 3 oz of top and side limit?
Why not just drill it the way you normally would and just not put a hole in it and let the statics fall where they may, which will most likely be under the new limit when it goes into affect.
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Seriously we are 2 yrs away from the new rule and people are already preparing for it, SMH. :o :o :o :o
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OP already stated, it's time for him to start bending the rules too, like the dreaded 2-handed bowlers have been doing all along.
That's logical guys.
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A real man would have drilled it with 3oz negative side & thumb.
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I'm not entirely sure what's happening here, if this is serious or trolling and I need to be caught up before I post something and look like an idiot . . The OP and some of the responses have to be trolling . .
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A real man would have drilled it with 3oz negative side & thumb.
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Everyone’s over here “more hook†and I’m just trying for enough hook to throw up 5 or 10 depending on the shot
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Two Handers has nothing to do with the rule changes.
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I'm not entirely sure what's happening here, if this is serious or trolling and I need to be caught up before I post something and look like an idiot . . The OP and some of the responses have to be trolling . .
I'm guilty .....
The rule changes just bother me and I felt the need to stir the pot a bit. :)
The no-thumbers have abused rules regarding equipment for years and now I am supposed to plug up some of my best equipment because they cheated...... it doesn't sit well with me at all.
I am telling the truth that I will not care about the 1oz top and side limits going forward. I keep good equipment until its not good and that can be 5 years .. maybe more. I am drilling an Idol and I plan to do the layout I like, that requires a weighthole to keep it legal under the current rule .... well I say heck with that.
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Two Handers has nothing to do with the rule changes.
let me rephrase ..... instead of "two-handers" lets call them "no-thumbers"...... and yes they have EVERYTHING to do with the rule changes regarding weight holes and static weights.
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Two Handers has nothing to do with the rule changes.
let me rephrase ..... instead of "two-handers" lets call them "no-thumbers"...... and yes they have EVERYTHING to do with the rule changes regarding weight holes and static weights.
A more accurate statement could be the combination of high rev bowlers buying nothing but sponges had a lot to do with the changes.
USBC stated they want to be able to control the degradation of the pattern and these are the rules they feel will do that. Will have to wait and see.
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I'm not entirely sure what's happening here, if this is serious or trolling and I need to be caught up before I post something and look like an idiot . . The OP and some of the responses have to be trolling . .
I'm guilty .....
The rule changes just bother me and I felt the need to stir the pot a bit. :)
The no-thumbers have abused rules regarding equipment for years and now I am supposed to plug up some of my best equipment because they cheated...... it doesn't sit well with me at all.
I am telling the truth that I will not care about the 1oz top and side limits going forward. I keep good equipment until its not good and that can be 5 years .. maybe more. I am drilling an Idol and I plan to do the layout I like, that requires a weighthole to keep it legal under the current rule .... well I say heck with that.
The Idol is symmetrical. Put the pin in your favorite spot and move the CG to grip center. It won’t make any difference whatsoever.
Losing the weight hole might make a difference, depending on its location.
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Layouts have little effect to begin with, but when your rev rate is 400+ layouts and weight holes are irrelevant.
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A more accurate statement could be the combination of high rev bowlers buying nothing but sponges had a lot to do with the changes.
USBC stated they want to be able to control the degradation of the pattern and these are the rules they feel will do that. Will have to wait and see.
Maybe they should start will the elimination of the mega-wall shots and deem those illegal. Take away the massive ramp between 15 and 25 that every house pro throws their Sure Lock or Kingpin Max into so they can watch it go sideways at the end of the pattern. This would force the use of less aggressive equipment, negate the current advantages of the no-thumbers, and bring shot making back ..... but that makes too much sense.
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Why cant we all just bowl and get along??? :) :)
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A more accurate statement could be the combination of high rev bowlers buying nothing but sponges had a lot to do with the changes.
USBC stated they want to be able to control the degradation of the pattern and these are the rules they feel will do that. Will have to wait and see.
Maybe they should start will the elimination of the mega-wall shots and deem those illegal. Take away the massive ramp between 15 and 25 that every house pro throws their Sure Lock or Kingpin Max into so they can watch it go sideways at the end of the pattern. This would force the use of less aggressive equipment, negate the current advantages of the no-thumbers, and bring shot making back ..... but that makes too much sense.
I am all for that. But did you actually expect USBC to make a rule change that affected the proprietors? Make a rule change that would require USBC to actually work at the local level?
And as you put it, taking away the advantage from one group and giving the advantage to another is fine as long as it is you who has the advantage. Don't be sour because you can't take advantage of the environment as it is today.
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Don't like the rule then don't sanction is pretty much your only choice (complaining and then giving them your money is useless). Since I suck (compared to some of the sharks on here) its an easy one for me and have plenty of unsanctioned league choices in my area. Maybe some day I plug some of my balls to do some tournaments but since I need the THS crutch not there anyway.
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I am curious to know how PSOs feel about this. If a bowler comes in and purposefully asks for a USBC "illegally-drilled" ball, do you do it? If said ball is used in USBC sanctioned competition and found to be illegal, what is the affect to the PSO?
I am all for people voting with their money when it comes to USBC. Don't like the rules then go ahead and don't participate in USBC sanctioned events. I personally don't see the new rules from making any tangible difference in the future. My opinion is ball companies will eventually offer asymmetric options for all price/performance points to allow the end user the same effect they have now with balance holes. The market will change and nothing will change for the performance in the long run.