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Mighty Fish

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Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« on: April 20, 2014, 05:14:59 PM »
It's an oft-repeated (and obvious) story, but one week of modern-day scoring obliterates past full seasons of high scores, as this report clearly shows.

http://www.examiner.com/article/grether-s-300-aleshire-s-806-and-2-women-s-700s-reflect-modern-high-score-tempo?cid=db_articles

 

Mighty Fish

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Re: Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« Reply #91 on: May 05, 2014, 09:06:15 PM »
Yeah.  That's what its all about, isn't it?  Clicks.  Attention.  Bad pub is better than no pub.
Dear Long Gone Daddy:

What a ridiculous comment! Do you really believe that there is a journalist anywhere who doesn't want people to read what he/she writes? And regardless of what you (and others) say in this forum, I can assure you that many people -- including virtually all current members of my local association's board of directors -- approve of my columns, my writing style and extensive coverage of area bowling.

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Re: Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« Reply #92 on: May 05, 2014, 09:07:03 PM »
Go read Miss Manners if you're that concerned about ettiquette.   Juggernaut and Avabob posted succinct responses that show how 99% of the people on here feel about your "reporting" but you refuse to accept it.
Dear Long Gone Daddy:

IF your assumption is correct -- which I seriously doubt -- that would mean that 99 percent of the people on here ACTUALLY READ MY COLUMNS, and if they do, that's obviously a good thing from my perspective.

On the other hand, if 99 percent of people on here have a negative opinion of my writings WITHOUT READING THEM, such opinions would have NO MERIT whatsoever, especially when such opinions are offered by people taking pot shots at me behind anonymous screen names.

Another thought comes to mind. YOU, of all people, accuse me of "bashing" something or other, when YOU are obviously one of the biggest "bashers" in the forum. And you do something I don't do, in that I don't issue personal attacks against other posters.

Have a good evening, and thanks for your comments.

Fish

  The problem I see is you keep saying all the articles you have written about bowling, and people have not read them, true?

But your problem is not all the articles you have written, but all the negativity you have expressed about bowling while you have been on BR. Granted you may have wrote a lot of good articles about bowling in your time but you don't post them on BR.

We see a lot of negativity on your part. And I have seen one good article you wrote about bowling while you have been on BR. and I told you so. You cant expect everyone to go to your papers web site and read every article you have ever written, just not going to happen. People have lives and don't have the time read every article.

Maybe if you post or write positive articles on bowling people might change there mind about you over time.

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Re: Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« Reply #93 on: May 06, 2014, 09:20:01 AM »
We see a lot of negativity on your part. And I have seen one good article you wrote about bowling while you have been on BR. and I told you so. You cant expect everyone to go to your papers web site and read every article you have ever written, just not going to happen. People have lives and don't have the time read every article.
Dear sevenpin63:

In response ...

Are you kidding? How many posters here DON'T express A LOT OF NEGATIVITY? Are you saying that posters such as Long Gone Daddy DON'T keep saying negative things?

And interestingly, people criticize my writings, but they don't take the time to even scan the subject matter (meaning that they really have no idea what most of my articles consist of). Some of those same people won't even take a look at my past columns (to prove their point), but they will sure review all my forum posts with a fine-toothed comb to find reasons to personally attack me.

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Re: Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« Reply #94 on: May 06, 2014, 09:45:04 AM »
We see a lot of negativity on your part. And I have seen one good article you wrote about bowling while you have been on BR. and I told you so. You cant expect everyone to go to your papers web site and read every article you have ever written, just not going to happen. People have lives and don't have the time read every article.
Dear sevenpin63:

In response ...

Are you kidding? How many posters here DON'T express A LOT OF NEGATIVITY? Are you saying that posters such as Long Gone Daddy DON'T keep saying negative things?

And interestingly, people criticize my writings, but they don't take the time to even scan the subject matter (meaning that they really have no idea what most of my articles consist of). Some of those same people won't even take a look at my past columns (to prove their point), but they will sure review all my forum posts with a fine-toothed comb to find reasons to personally attack me.

I think the personal attacks come from the fact that when anyone posts their opinion and it does match your opinion you feel the need to respond to it. Why not just let people have their opinions and leave it at that?

You also draw criticism because you seem to want to hang on to the old days, but the old days are gone, we all know about the old days and how different it was then but that time is gone.

Nothing personal just stating what I see
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Re: Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« Reply #95 on: May 06, 2014, 12:04:39 PM »
Let's call a spade a spade, everyone. The only reason this thread is seven pages long and counting is Fish is killing time while he waits for his hero Mike Aleshire to shoot 292 or some garbage.

Mighty Fish

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Re: Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« Reply #96 on: May 06, 2014, 01:43:52 PM »
I think the personal attacks come from the fact that when anyone posts their opinion and it does match your opinion you feel the need to respond to it. Why not just let people have their opinions and leave it at that?
Dear mainzer:

What's wrong with my responses? Do you have objection to differing opinions?

When people have differing opinions, WHY, ALL TOO OFTEN, IS THERE PERSONAL CRITICISM INVOLVED? Why can't there be a discussion and comparison of those opinions, rather than constant attempts to make it PERSONAL?

If a person disagrees with another's opinion, why not simply say something such as, "With all due respect, I disagree" (followed by discussion as to the reasons why there is disagreement)? But some posters obviously enjoy taking personal pot-shots at others, usually behind the veil of an anonymous screen name.

If I disagree with someone's opinion, I don't start attacking that poster on a personal basis, and I don't call such poster a moron or an idiot (or worse) because they have a differing opinion. Wouldn't this be a more polite and constructive forum if all posters conducted themselves likewise?

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Re: Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« Reply #97 on: May 06, 2014, 01:55:52 PM »
Fish is killing time while he waits for his hero Mike Aleshire to shoot 292 or some garbage.

HAHAHA!
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Mighty Fish

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Re: Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« Reply #98 on: May 06, 2014, 06:51:20 PM »
HAHAHA!
Yet another appropriate on-topic post ... NOT!

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Re: Old-time and modern-day scoring levels: not even close
« Reply #99 on: May 08, 2014, 07:52:54 AM »
I think the personal attacks come from the fact that when anyone posts their opinion and it does match your opinion you feel the need to respond to it. Why not just let people have their opinions and leave it at that?
Dear mainzer:

What's wrong with my responses? Do you have objection to differing opinions?

When people have differing opinions, WHY, ALL TOO OFTEN, IS THERE PERSONAL CRITICISM INVOLVED? Why can't there be a discussion and comparison of those opinions, rather than constant attempts to make it PERSONAL?

If a person disagrees with another's opinion, why not simply say something such as, "With all due respect, I disagree" (followed by discussion as to the reasons why there is disagreement)? But some posters obviously enjoy taking personal pot-shots at others, usually behind the veil of an anonymous screen name.

If I disagree with someone's opinion, I don't start attacking that poster on a personal basis, and I don't call such poster a moron or an idiot (or worse) because they have a differing opinion. Wouldn't this be a more polite and constructive forum if all posters conducted themselves likewise?
Mighty Fish,

While you might not come across and blatantly attack people, the manner in which you respond can be taken that way.  Prime example was in what you replied back to me in response to a simple question.

In my post, I clearly state that you've had informative stuff written and I won't dispute that.  The reference to the crap that's there isn't specific to what you write, but the never ending posts that make the original topic too much to bear as it takes way too much time to sift through the name calling and everything else there to read posts that comment on the topic at hand.

Let's see how you responded :
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There was no ulterior motive in my REPORTING of the previous week's high scores, and all of the feedback from LOCAL bowlers (about that article) has been positive. Only in a forum such as this is such a column likely to be criticized, which prompts me to ask: What is YOUR motive for asking me about the "intent" of the article? Just what issue(s) do you take with it?

Obviously, if I used such scoring comparisons (with previous years) in all -- or even a more limited amount -- of such columns, I could understand your "objections" ... but the fact is that such is not the case. And if you don't believe me, here is a link to hundreds of my past columns, and see if you can find anything similar in previous weekly high-score reports. Frankly, I don't see a "problem" although you apparently do.

While not an attack, it still is.  There was no name calling, but the manner in which you respond is no different than you coming back and calling me an idiot because I asked a simple question.  I asked the question because I wanted an honest answer from you without you knowing my intent.  After you answered, I gave you the reason for why I asked it.  But had I done that before, your answer would have been based on what my opinion....not my question. 

I responded to your post and will say the same thing again....I enjoy reading your posts.  I don't care that they might be about 'the good ole days' or that you were a great bowler, etc.  Fact is I asked a question and you attacked the question...period.

Now, in response to many of the other comments about who reads what, I think that because of the way many of your posts go, people have a hard time reading them for the reasons mentioned above: original post...plenty of attacks...counter attacks...oh, legitimate post on original topic...more counter attacks on the counter attack...and so on...and so on.

After a while, it gets hard to go through post to actually find something.  But I still do.

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