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lilpossum1

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Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« on: December 15, 2014, 08:01:05 AM »
This whole winter league, the lane conditions have been awful! It is not that the league has a hard shot, it is just awful with carry down. Not burnt up lanes, actual carry down left over from prior leagues and open bowling. The lanes are stripped completely for the Tuesday league, the back ends are stripped for Thursday, and then more oil is just squirted on the lane for the rest of the leagues. By the time Sunday rolls around, the lanes are shot. I can't get a ball to roll through the pocket. I can get a ball to hook, but with no drive or hit. I watched a friend bowl on another pair last night, and his ball didn't even read any dry part of the lane. The rotation was the same from his hand all the way to the end of the pin deck. I am not asking for an easy THS, just a shot where I can be rewarded with a strike on a perfectly thrown ball

 

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2014, 08:54:00 AM »
And this is where you learn to play fallback. Think of it as that 52 foot PBA pattern! Something can be learned every time you bowl. I grew up in an honest to goodness brick house. Wood from the 50s, every time they resurfaced the lanes they had to trim the nails that were sticking up. Heads were gone before practice, back ends were stupid tight, and sidewalls were dead. First owner liked the gutter, so that was playable, until a new owner came in, one that liked playing the slow wheel. Went from playing the gutter to everything outside of 10 being out of bounds.  I grew up in this condition. Then I would travel to these houses where they were wide open, and I would look like a superstar.

Either learn, or quit. Admit you don't want the challenge that'd been presented to you, and find a softer house.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2014, 09:14:12 AM »
I agree with anyone complaining about league conditions.  I bowl in an easy house for the rev challenge and the people think its the next best thing to a miracle like changing water into wine.  I have revs and relegated to having to use urethane or in most case a plastic taboo spare.  The house in question is Plano Super bowl.  I remember the old days when the league got a condition across the house.  In my league the oil the lanes and its open play until league shows up and then they ask for the lanes to be turned in 10 minutes prior.  We have had bowlers bowl 3 four games one one or both lanes.  Tell me hows this is a fair representation of the league shot.  The typical house shot there is 10 out little to no oil.  So what you have is really adult bumper bowling.  Would be nice if the Secretary stand up for us or god forbid that the USBC come in and tell the proprietor that they were going to decertify the lanes for non compliance of a standard league shot.  Oh yeah no such thing anymore. Then you have the ball companies make balls so strong that they eat up lanes (i.e. Storm Crux). WHEN will the madness stop???  The fun thing is to watch these inflated averages go to nationals and complain about how hard it was (just got to laugh).   

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2014, 12:25:00 PM »
I just read this thread.
 
I have to agree this seems misplaced. Lilpossum1, you are not looking at this correctly. You say you are down 10 pins in average, so if you were 200 you are 190 now. If someone was 230, they are 220 now. They are still 30 pins better then you. It's all relative. Also, this shows you that maybe you really aren't the bowler you thought you were. Tougher conditions tend to shine the light of reality on bowlers. I averaged 230+ on THS for many years. But when I bowled a Sport Shot league for the first time, I average in the 180's. Did I complain...not at all. I worked to get better. The last time I bowled a full season in a Sports Shot league, I averaged 203 and was only behind a Team Canada member, and a Storm rep. I was very happy. You have a tremendous opportunity to use this league to improve your game, and improve your mental game. Instead of complaining, right down every thing you can do with a ball....from different releases, different lines, different surfaces. Then start trying them. One of them might work, if not, then you have more to learn.
 
Have you tried pointing it off the right corner, btw? Or pointing it off the 2nd arrow? You don't always have to throw the ball to the right or even straight to score well. I finished 2nd in the BTM tournament one year at Nationals, by pointing the ball off the corner slightly. In college, we had a tournament where I had to loft the ball over the gutter to score well...the right gutter (and I am right handed). If you spent the energy you used getting upset, and ranting and put that into finding a solution and working to get better....you wouldn't be 10 pins down in average anymore.
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2014, 01:57:48 PM »
Guys, I am sorry I have been a whiny a$$ for the last few days. I have had a lot of stress lately, and I finally broke. I had a heart to heart talk I really needed with my best friend last night, and I finally am thinking clearly again. I have been fighting this shot for the whole year, whereas I have only seen the lanes at this house get like this once every few months. I have honestly tried every trick in my arsenal, except lofting the right gutter lol. I am using this shot to get better. I don't like a super easy shot. I bowled on one shot at a house I visited where I was off my game, and still shot well over 600. Realistically, I am a 200 average bowler when I focus. I average 190's on every other league because I goof around too much with everyone instead of bowling for real. That 366? I made all of my single pin spares, but chopped every one of my multiple pin spares. I can count every strike I threw that night on one hand, and still have enough fingers left to scratch my head. And I was in the pocket all night except for one shot, where I stuck and tried to kiss the lane. Now that I am thinking clearly, I realize that the only shots I have seen where the ball actually rolls have been when the ball gets outside the 5 board, which is outside my normal shot range. I have leaked a ball out there from time to time. Sometimes it will ride the rail and hit the 6-10 area. Last Sunday, it recovered and struck. I should have learned from that, but I was ignorant and not thinking clearly. I admit, I do like to throw the big scores as much as anyone, but I do not expect it out of the shot. I guess I am also just aggravated that everyone is fighting the shot except for the straight bowlers just because of the lanes being awful by the time it gets around to our league, and also that my team keeps getting the short end of the stick and bowling a team that is on fire almost every week, while my team almost always has one or two of us having a terrible night. Yes we do win and lose as a team. Again, I am sorry I have been such a whiny a$$.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #50 on: December 17, 2014, 02:04:53 PM »
Another thing, I am making a couple changes in my bag. I took my mastermind and sanded it down with a green scotch bright pad to really help it dig into the lane. I am putting my Nightmare back into my bag at green scotch bright with 4000 grit on top of that for more of a benchmark reaction on wetter conditions. I have never sanded my mastermind down that rough, and I haven't tried my nightmare on this shot yet. I am going to sand my primal rage back down and repolish it the way I always have where I do get a good reaction out of it on most conditions. I polished it using more pressure, and it is not reading the lane at any house. There are things I have not tried, I just was not able to see it. I really think playing around the 5 board with my nightmare will be the trick, as long as I can get my rev rate up to be able to recover from out there.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #51 on: December 17, 2014, 03:32:28 PM »
If you have friction outside, seek to exploit it!   ;)

Yes, it may be outside your comfort zone, but see it as an OPPORTUNITY to develop this part of your game.
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #52 on: December 17, 2014, 04:07:00 PM »
I am a play it safe person. I am not good at getting the ball outside. I have only started trying to do that in the last month when I needed to at a tournament because of the crazy backend that I had. I guess I need to become good at it, and quick. The league is half over, and my team hasn't won a quarter yet, and these last two weeks were not a good start. I have one teammate with a broken bowling finger that is all swollen up, one who injured his thumb while punching a wall due to his psycho girlfriend punching him in the face, and a third teammate who has been a no call no show for the last two weeks, and is behind on paying three weeks. They are making me want to pull my hair out! Good thing I have a real short haircut lol

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #53 on: December 17, 2014, 05:20:32 PM »
lilpossum,
     No need to apologize. You have seen the light, metaphorically speaking, that's all that matters. I am glad you were able to get over whatever the issue was and put it behind you.
 
     And don't knock lofting the right gutter, we finished 3rd at that tournament with 2-3 of us playing that line, lol. The others were a bit better at playing fallback shot then us so they went deep inside. I know sometimes we don't think of things like that or even pointing the ball towards the pocket, because we think we should be able to throwing up or out. Sometimes all it takes is someone to mention it to give us the kick in the pants we need to open up to new ideas again.
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #54 on: December 17, 2014, 08:07:17 PM »
Hey, I'm not knocking lofting the right gutter. I think it would work, except I have an above ground ball return that will give me hell lol.

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2014, 10:25:14 AM »
Well that does provide a unique problem, lol. Unless the bowler on the other lane of your pair is willing to wait, lol.


Hey, I'm not knocking lofting the right gutter. I think it would work, except I have an above ground ball return that will give me hell lol.
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2014, 11:13:16 AM »
Last time I saw someone try to loft gutters there, he was playing really deep for fun. The ball bounced off the corner of the gutter, landed on the ball return, and rode the ball return up into the back with the pin machines. When the lane man went back to get the ball, the ball was resting against be belt of a machine, and the belt was eating a hole through his ball. He said the smell back there was awful

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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2014, 11:18:20 AM »
Ouch!!!

I can imagine....I remember the smell of a ball just getting lightly rubbed by the belts, and it wasn't pleasant.

I have not had to bowl with above ground ball returns in years, and my ankles are thanking me for that...at 6'4, unless the lanes were flooded, I usually hit my ankle on the return every shot on the right lane. Just adds to the fun though right?!? :)


Last time I saw someone try to loft gutters there, he was playing really deep for fun. The ball bounced off the corner of the gutter, landed on the ball return, and rode the ball return up into the back with the pin machines. When the lane man went back to get the ball, the ball was resting against be belt of a machine, and the belt was eating a hole through his ball. He said the smell back there was awful
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Re: Sick of crappy conditions! (Rant)
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2014, 12:05:57 PM »
My right leg doesn't come up like that, but I see a lot of people that do, and it just plain looks painful. I do brush against the ball return when I throw at my 10 pins. I hate lanes 1 and 2 for shooting at 10 pins. Lane one is tight against the wall, and the wall has ribs that catch my wallet as I brush against it, and it throws me off. No clue why my arm doesn't hit the wall though... Must be some kind of subconscious thing