Author Topic: PBA Experience (Read 2056 times)

bshell27 · « **on:** April 14, 2008, 08:35:49 AM »

I averaged a 179 THS ending the season mon. nights. I was averaging 590-620 towards the end. How humbled will I be in the sport shot league? I have two balls and a spare ball right now,

1- Total Inferno
2- Total NV
3- Maxim

15 pounds, do I need to add a ball to my arsenal (I really want to get the Roto Grip Cell) but will it do any good or am I just buying to buy?
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Raven829 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 15, 2008, 05:16:50 AM »

It depends on a lot of factors. If you go into it with no ego and wanting to gain something from the more difficult shot then you should be fine. All of the PBA patterns are playable...you just have to find the right ball with the right layout and surface for your game.

If you guys think that a 50 pin difference is big...I'm not too proud to post this-

Last year THS average- 230
This year THS average- 227

2 years ago summer Sport league- 168
This year 1st time PBA Experience- 185

I actually finished the Sport league in the top 10. I'm middle of the pack average-wise in the PBA league. On a THS last year I was top 5 in average for the city. This year probably top 20. Currently 8th in association All-Star points.

Don
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Motogp69 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 15, 2008, 10:12:25 AM »

I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but also for me bowling the PBA experience league killed my THS form. I got in the mode of playing the PBA patterns and now I just basically forgot how to really take advantage of a THS. I averaged 226 going into the PBA experience league, I averaged 215 in the Experience league. I'm still bowling great in tournaments and anything not resembling a house shot, but on my house shot my average has since dropped to 212. It's not even an issue of getting to the pocket. I just never got out of the groove of only playing the end of the patterns specifically and on a THS that's no usually a good idea if you want to really take advantage of the shot.

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NicholasE · « **Reply #18 on:** April 15, 2008, 10:22:05 AM »

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I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but also for me bowling the PBA experience league killed my THS form. I got in the mode of playing the PBA patterns and now I just basically forgot how to really take advantage of a THS. I averaged 226 going into the PBA experience league, I averaged 215 in the Experience league. I'm still bowling great in tournaments and anything not resembling a house shot, but on my house shot my average has since dropped to 212. It's not even an issue of getting to the pocket. I just never got out of the groove of only playing the end of the patterns specifically and on a THS that's no usually a good idea if you want to really take advantage of the shot.

i know what you mean. like in the pba league i bowl straight up boards with little swing on about 4 of the patterns and then going from that to a THS for practice, its like I can't swing the ball to save my life..lol I can't throw them up the boards because of my revs and it just will take off..so its different...
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Motogp69 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:27:52 AM »

Yeah it's mind numbingly stupid. I went like 4 years without a sub 600 series. This season I shot 828 and the following week shot 580. I love league bowling. Honestly I can't use half of my tournament stuff on a THS anyways, because it just doesn't roll or look the same. I usually just take an Ebonite Ice, and swing it, because on a house shot it hooks only a little bit less than my Cell. On a tough shot though, the balls are worlds apart.
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n00dlejester · « **Reply #20 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:36:48 AM »

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Yeah it's mind numbingly stupid. I went like 4 years without a sub 600 series. This season I shot 828 and the following week shot 580. I love league bowling. Honestly I can't use half of my tournament stuff on a THS anyways, because it just doesn't roll or look the same. I usually just take an Ebonite Ice, and swing it, because on a house shot it hooks only a little bit less than my Cell. On a tough shot though, the balls are worlds apart.
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I find that to be so true also. On a THS I usually find a bit of difference, but on tougher conditions the reactions are mountains apart. I can't wait for my summer PBA league again!

And to answer the original poster: as long as you keep an open mind and confidence, you'll be fine. Don't let the lanes beat you: I find it to be more of a mental thing than a physical thing on these tougher shots. And get a Cell for the PBA stuff, oil will be everywhere.

se7en · « **Reply #21 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:42:11 AM »

You'll be humbled.

But go into it expecting to learn that you need to throw plastic at spares (non clustered), the bumpers are gone and you can sail one into the ditch with ease, and the pattern changes fast. I never had a pair with a group that worked cohesively to burn a line. People tend to play all over the place making it more difficult than it already is.
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Atochabsh · « **Reply #22 on:** April 16, 2008, 01:20:02 AM »

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WOW 50 pin difference, you must have a nice house shot.

This was pretty much normal for all our participants in our first Sport league (the first year it existed) and it wasn't due to easy house shots so much as to the nearly impossible sport shot (with length) put out. No one in our sport league that first year averaged over 190 and we had regional tourning guys at 240+ bowling.

So its not necessarily the house shot being too easy. Sport shots are not created equal either.

How much your butt gets kicked is up to your game and skill level. If you can read lanes and adjust to make spares under any circumstance then you will do well.

Erin

nutsforbowling · « **Reply #23 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:01:06 AM »

I would just like to see a left hander not be a able to play the first arrow on EVERY pattern. The PBA league I was on this year, the top 3 guys were all left handed and averaged above 200. Top right hander only at 195. It was a joke every week seeing the lefties play the same place and never having to move. I WILL NOT go back to bowl these leagues, they are a waste of time and money. My average on THS is the same, and it killed my form for months.

Plus USBC gets another 15 bucks. What a rip-off!!!!!!!!!!
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psaunders300 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:30:21 AM »

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I would just like to see a left hander not be a able to play the first arrow on EVERY pattern. The PBA league I was on this year, the top 3 guys were all left handed and averaged above 200. Top right hander only at 195. It was a joke every week seeing the lefties play the same place and never having to move. I WILL NOT go back to bowl these leagues, they are a waste of time and money. My average on THS is the same, and it killed my form for months.

Plus USBC gets another 15 bucks. What a rip-off!!!!!!!!!!
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The 10 pin is the enemy!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would have to agree with you regarding the leftys... but I will keep bowling these patterns. On Shark, the leftys have a disadvantage.

I heard these complaints all last summer from jealous righties who were not playing the lanes the way they should be played...LMAO. Playing the shorter patterns (Cheetah, Viper, Chameleon) near the gutter works on both sides. Right handers just did not think so...I actually convinced several righties to try playing way out and they did well...wow you can teach a righty new tricks...LOL!

On the Shark I pointed my ball in from ten and did very well. Again I heard all kinds of comments from the righties - "How can you be hitting the pocket all the time?", "How are you getting you ball to hook so much?" Again LMAO, my ball was NOT hooking much, I was getting the same three boards of hook as the righties but pointing the ball at the pocket. The righties were trying to swing the ball AWAY from the pocket - of course your ball won't hook back!!

What fun, I had a very entertaining summer thanks to the righties...
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psaunders300 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 18, 2008, 04:39:36 PM »

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Once I did get lined up it was funny to hear the righties complain that I did not have to move. "Camp out there all night, stupid lefty!" etc. " I want to die and come back lefty!" It is pretty amusing to listen to!!!

Same here...jealous righties make for good, cheap entertainment! Not too many right handers think us lefties are any good. I just let my bowling do the talking and at the end of the day, walk away with their money in pocket. Last summer the guy that ran the high game pots didn't even want me in because he said it wasn't fair (lefties had it too easy!) and that I was winning too much...what fun!

Once you figure out the shot and got matched up, it looks like you did quite well. Keep the positive attitude and an open mind and you will do well. And get that spare ball, it will help more than you know!!

Good luck and bowl well!

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Paul Saunders
USBC Bronze Level Coach

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