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POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« on: August 17, 2009, 01:09:44 PM »
Not talking about your ball a month regular customer, but your average every day league bowler... Is it right that they expect a discount?

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2009, 01:36:31 PM »
No

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2009, 01:47:39 PM »
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Just do what K & K does which offer rewards money on a credit type of card towards future purchases, also sponsor tournaments and give cheap lessons.

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I also use the bowlers rewards cards.

Bowling Rewards FTW

Being given/awarded a discount is different from expecting one.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2009, 01:51:47 PM »
Pro Shop for me, when u go in for new inserts for the worn out ones or something like opening up the thumb hole, or first time of surfacing a ball he'll do it for free. He lets me try out some of his new stuff because of having similar spans.
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2009, 03:09:30 PM »
I think it's doing your center a favor. If you are a rented space in the center and actually pay rent. It is not your obligation to give their league bowlers a discount. It is really helping the center owners out. If the center owner is good to you and lets you have free lineage for lessons or to analyze a customer. Free sodas, etc. Then I think it's a good idea to wash each others backs.. Give a little ,get a little...

I am moving into a Free standing location so I am thinking of how to attract the bowlers from the centers that have shops already in house.. Then a discount might be in order..

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2009, 07:42:15 PM »
Why not do whatever you can to bring customers in the door?  If marketing did
not work, there would be no ads in your Sunday papers or on TV.  Do what you
have to do to bring in revenue.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2009, 08:04:38 PM »
living in hawaii, all the shops have ridiculous prices. i actually pay about $40 less to order a ball from vegas and have them ship it. i try my best to support local shops, but sometimes they just ask far too much. it's especially irritating because all of the no-lifers who hang out in the shop all day long get pretty deep discounts on stuff.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2009, 08:09:28 PM »
Might as well give a discount to everyone that steps into the shop if you want to give league bowlers a discount.  Everyone wants a discount, the seniors, the juniors, the league bowlers, USBC card holders etc...........

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #38 on: August 19, 2009, 12:01:20 AM »
offering a combo sale isn't a bad idea...2 balls for a certain price, or get a ball, get X% off a bag/or shoes.  but to the original question, is it right to expect a discount? not really.  showing a customer you appreciate his/her business is smart though, i think.  doesn't have to be major, like a free ball, but it could be free bottle of cleaner or something equally priced.  when i managed pizza hut, i had some great regular customers.  every now and then, without telling them until i saw them come in to pick up their pizzas, i would give the pizza free.  i may never have needed to give anything free to them, but it came down to appreciation that over the years they chose to order from me, not domino's or papa johns.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2009, 12:43:36 AM »
We run a holiday sale for Xmas ball/bag/shoes.  We then found out that we needed to run two packages because there were those that were happy with a basic plastic ball beginner package and then all the "substitutes" from those that didn't want those shoes, or that bag or that ball.  So now we run two holiday packages, one for beginners (plastic ball) and an intermediate package (ball at the Hammer Vibe level but three choices).  And we STILL have people that want to substitute this ball, or those shoes or that bag.  Its endless.  You give them a deal and they are still not happy.  Its very frustrating and time consuming and hard to deal with when it comes to exchanging parts of the "package".  That's the problem with ball/bag and shoes packages and its not as easy as it would seem to implement.  If you play hard nose with the required parts of the package you alienate customers.  

Dealing with the public is not easy and in some ways harder in the pro shop  business.  I've been in retail for years, not bowling related.  And never seen the hard drive for "discounts", "deals", "haggling" , "freebies" that seems to be part of the bowling business.  In fact expected from the bowlers of their pro shops. Its really quite unbelievable and unlike most other retail businesses.  

So we keep trying to find new ways to keep the bowling customer happy and still make a living.  

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2009, 12:48:35 AM »
i don't get one and dont expect one.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2009, 01:42:39 AM »
We offer deals to our very valued customers... We also will match any price that is given at other local proshops. But, league bowlers should not expect a discount on everything they get!!!

I have been in the retail business for many years and I have never seen a customer base the just EXPECTS amazing discounts or free stuff just cause they bowl or are league bowlers. I have no problem giving great deals and I enjoy it. But, when people come in and expect me to give them a great deal just because they bought a ball or 2 balls from me in the past I think it is rediculous.

I guess most league bowlers in my area think that every Proshop is just loaded and we make a killing off of them. Nothing against them, I just wish they understood we are here to not only help them but MAKE MONEY.

You dont see people going into walmart trying to low ball their prices.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2009, 02:42:46 AM »
i think it would be wrong for the league bowler to think they are entitled to a discount...

heck when the guy that used to drill my equip passed away and his shop relocated and someone else took over running it he still honors the previouse customer discount that the origanal owner gave and this guy has never drilled sqwat for me.. just ordered me my vise thumb tape and still gave me a discount cause my name was in his data bank...i'll take it but wasn't expecting it.

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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2009, 03:16:51 AM »
Good input here.

I offer year round ball/bag/shoes starter kits at a discount. I run monthly promotions on different types of products, and this month is a sale on all Brunswick bowling balls. I'm pretty big into bundling and push the service side of the business, educating people why rejuvenating maintainence is important. I keep over 70K in inventory between 2 shops and I never make customers wait long for drilling. A one hour wait in the goal, but same day is usually promised. If that isn't servicing my customers, then I don't know what is...

It just irks me when a bowler comes in whom I've never met and buys shoes, then expects a league bowler discount... at least establish a rapport. If I know I'll have some customer loyalty for the long term, then I'll be very generous and lower my price as a thank you.
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #44 on: August 19, 2009, 09:14:08 AM »
part of why you don't haggle with someone in retail is due to the notion that it isnt personal.  you only know that wal mart associate as "wal mart associate".  a pro shop customer not only likely knows your name, but knows YOU...or at least thinks so.  also, it is easier to ask for a discount from a perceived independent individual than someone stuck in a mega store.  a good realtor or a good car salesman develops a rapport with you, and you feel safe to bid/ask for a lower price on a house/car.
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Re: POLL: Should league bowlers get a pro shop discount?
« Reply #45 on: August 19, 2009, 10:12:47 AM »
if they bowl as a regular in the house the shop is in, why not?

If they don't bowl in the house the shop is in, then No
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