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maxlover

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Positive Axis Point (PAP) Standard?
« on: March 02, 2012, 04:33:14 PM »
I have on many occasions seen pro shops drill a new ball for a new customer and apparently don't know what the customer's PAP is.  Is there some kind of standard PAP they use when its not known and if so what is that standard?  Anybody know the answer?



 

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Re: Positive Axis Point (PAP) Standard?
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2012, 11:11:43 AM »
Ric I'm with you 100%, but wouldn't it be safer to go pin over the fingers?  I do that in the event that someone tracks a little high.  If they have a ball with diff and they track near the fingers they could end up with a bowtie on their middle finger.  I try to get the pin above the ring and over the outside of the hole so that the track stays out of their own way.

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Re: Positive Axis Point (PAP) Standard?
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2012, 11:21:16 AM »
When I over saw the Orleans pro shop & had a crew of 5, we used for a generic PAP of either pin under or over ring finger as being a safe layout....so yes I would suggest using either. I personally don't think you can go wrong with either.


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Re: Positive Axis Point (PAP) Standard?
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2012, 12:31:29 PM »
 Its called lack of care in customer service for you buying a product. Many shops ask you what your favorite ball is in the bag and drill it to that. Or they ask what you want the ball to do and then go pin up or pin down near the ring finger as mentioned.  So the pin could be 3.5" from your pap or 5" from it. That is kind of a big deal. Its why Im glad I learned to drill and layout equipment myself. I know what I want and what I am getting.

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Edited by kidlost2000 on 3/8/2012 at 11:32 AM
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Positive Axis Point (PAP) Standard?
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2012, 02:53:24 PM »
Would your PAP not vary depending on your release?  I have seen the same ball vary from a high track to a medium track depending on whether I am up the back or around the ball a bit.  What does this say about my PAP?  Does it remain the same for both releases or should they use some medium PAP to split the difference based on my varied releases?



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Re: Positive Axis Point (PAP) Standard?
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2012, 07:36:21 PM »
 It will change some but likely very little. However you throw the ball most often is the pap id use.

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Re: Positive Axis Point (PAP) Standard?
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2012, 09:57:50 PM »
A lot of times a bowler thinks they change there PAP with hand positions but generally it is very slight. More times than not you put a quarter over the area of the PAP and you stay within with the changes. You tend to change the tilt or rotation slightly.


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