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Rileybowler

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Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« on: June 12, 2017, 09:29:45 PM »
I was bowling senior league today and threw it appeared 3 beautiful shots and left 8 pins. I have heard that there is really nothing that you can do but was wondering if there is a standard adjustment to make for this.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2017, 09:42:47 PM »
Check the rack.

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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2017, 09:45:46 PM »
You don't make an adjustment

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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2017, 12:36:44 AM »

Check the rack.

Good idea. What we don't know from this is was this flush in the pocket, a stone 8, swisher 8, etc. Was the head pin, 5-pin, or 8-pin offset? If could be the problem.

If the answer is no to all of those,

You don't make an adjustment

This is the right adjustment to make.

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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2017, 11:01:15 AM »
Assuming they were dead flush, not half pocket where the ten pin went out late, there is no adjustment.  The stone 8 is a fluke the cant be adjusted for.

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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2017, 11:28:24 AM »
If I had a dollar every time I heard that..... I would be rich, lol.  It's so frustrating to leave 2/3 stone 9 pins each game, it's so demoralizing.

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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2017, 11:36:42 AM »
I had a 279 last last week at leagues with an 8 pin in the 5th frame. I didn't check the prior, I only noticed the head pin was tight just as my ball passed the spot down lane. This happened again in the 9th which I was able to catch.

I'm not sure if this related, but two times on the same left lane I had the head pin pop out of the deck for a dead wood in the same spot of the channel.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2017, 04:03:25 PM »
For many years the solid 8 was considered the only true tap in bowling.  I believe this is still a valid statement.  The emergence of the solid 9 stems from the extreme entry angle of modern balls.  The solid 7 is often the result of a slight bad rack.  The solid 8 transcends ball technology.  I left them with hard rubber balls, polyester balls, urethane balls  and now with resin balls both 16 and 15 lbs.

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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2017, 04:30:25 PM »
My 8 pin leaves are usually from a light pocket hit. The ball is deflected just a bit more from the head pin, which give it just enough angle when hitting the 5 pin to drive it(5 pin) in front of the 8 instead of taking it out. Another half board right, and the 7 pin would be there instead of the 8.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2017, 04:45:37 PM »
Your 8s differ from the full flush hit solid 8. 

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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2017, 04:47:51 PM »
Not enough "Continuation"!!! ::) ;) ;D

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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2017, 04:52:04 PM »
Your 8s differ from the full flush hit solid 8. 

So if a 9 is left when a ball has too steep of an entry angle, thus driving right past the 9 pin instead of hitting it, wouldn't 8 pins be left due to light hits and/or too shallow of an entry angle?

Either way, the ball doesn't hit the 5 pin correctly, which means it deflected off the head pin or just didn't get to the correct spot on the pin deck.

Of course, assuming the rack wasn't the problem.
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2017, 04:52:43 PM »
Not enough "Continuation"!!! ::) ;) ;D

Which ironically, is true.  :o ;D


Now, if you just bought this latest new ball, the (fill in the blank staffer), you would never leave an 8 pin again. It's a must have in your bag.  ;D
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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2017, 05:05:07 PM »
On just about every solid 8 you see a replay of the 2 pin hits the 5 before the ball and the 5 is chopped behind the 8 instead of into it. 

Right handers, if they check the rack, usually don't look at the 2 pin or don't show much concern if the headpin is left.  But don't be the guy that reracks in league, especially a handicap league.


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Re: Right Handed Bowler Leaving 8 Pin
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2017, 05:12:06 PM »
On just about every solid 8 you see a replay of the 2 pin hits the 5 before the ball and the 5 is chopped behind the 8 instead of into it. 

Right handers, if they check the rack, usually don't look at the 2 pin or don't show much concern if the headpin is left.  But don't be the guy that reracks in league, especially a handicap league.



Interesting, so what exactly makes the 2 pin deflect to the right when a right hander is bowling? The head pin?
« Last Edit: June 13, 2017, 05:13:55 PM by milorafferty »
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