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Zanatos1914

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Should PBA be allow to bowl against Avg Bowlers
« on: September 05, 2007, 12:13:52 AM »
Personally I have a problem with them bowling in our tournaments because the odds are in favor of the PBA in open lanes. They didn't get the title Professional Bowler for just being avg bowlers.  Don't get me wrong because I have beaten some PBA but open play tournament should be off limits...
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Re: Should PBA be allow to bowl against Avg Bowlers
« Reply #76 on: September 07, 2007, 09:06:20 AM »
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The PBA has a criteria. Not everyone can buy their way in. Granted the criteria problably needs to be a higher standard, but anyway you can't just can't send a check and become a PBA member.


My point was: I could. Avg 200+ for 2 years. You don't have to be a Great Bowler (tour guys and top regional guys) to be able buy the title Member of the Professional Bowlers Association. And yes it should be a higher standard. I could buy the membership and I am probably outsidet the top ten bowlers in MY league.? It should not be that way..

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Yes that is your opinion and not the PBA's. Until that changes there is nothing wrong with someone joining as a standard member and then only bowl regionals 2 or 3 times a year. Not everyone can go out and bowl every other weekend.


I absolutely agree with you. As I said I would not be able to shell out $300(?) per regional, even if I was good enough to bowl in them. But at least if you are bowling in 3 events per year, you are participating. The problem seems to be that there is a lack of distinction between the group that bowls 3 events per year, the group that bowls them all and wins occasionally, and the group that bowls none and just buys the balls and says they are PBA members. To me all of these groups are not the same...


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Re: Should PBA be allow to bowl against Avg Bowlers
« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2007, 11:51:18 AM »
hey there,

     you know what.  im not sure what the gripe is.  what do many of these 220 avg bowlers have to worry about.  they use the same equipment as the pros.  the lane conditions are the same for everyone.  the only difference is that the pros practice on the tougher conditions all the time.  but nevertheless, you still have to hit the pocket and you still have to make spares.  even the pros can flush the pocket and barely roll 180.  any bowler that can read the lanes and take what the lanes give them have just as much chance to win as any other bowler.  just my two cents.

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Re: Should PBA be allow to bowl against Avg Bowlers
« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2007, 12:14:57 PM »
Sour grapes is the flavor of this topic.  If the great late earl anthony was around today he couldn't bowl in the PBA.  A groccery store clerk has no chance of bowling in an event.  The PBA shold let anyone bowl in the tournaments.  They would get more prize money there would be more under dog stories there would be dreams and aspirations that have a chance.

On the flip side i think "PROs" should not be able to bowl amateur events if they have X amount of titles.  Regional guys unless they have a X++ amount of titles.
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Re: Should PBA be allow to bowl against Avg Bowlers
« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2007, 03:59:34 PM »
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The problem seems to be that there is a lack of distinction between the group that bowls 3 events per year, the group that bowls them all and wins occasionally, and the group that bowls none and just buys the balls and says they are PBA members. To me all of these groups are not the same...


I don't think there should be an issue for members in group 1 even if they only bowl 1 - 3 events a year. They bowl, they pay their dues. If you cut these guys out of the loop....you lose them. Less entries for tournaments.
I look at the guys in group one as members who have 40 hour jobs every week that can't take the time off to go these tournaments. They have kids or do shift work or have to work WEEKENDS or don't have the vacation time.  

These are types of members is what you need. The PBA is not going to get every member to bowl more than three tournaments a year. That's the appeal of a standard membership. Its a stepping stone for some and for others that is all they can do.

For those guys in this group 1, I say give them the discount. I think most of them probably only buy 1 - 3 balls a year. They still have to take their bowling equipment to local pro shop to get drilled.  

I think this issue of guys making $$$$$ from PBA memberships is being stretched quite a bit. The manufactures limit the members on how much equipment they can buy. Its not like they can order 20 Fury balls and sell them on Ebay.

How much overall money do some of you think local pro-shops and bowling centers are losing to the guys who are "equipment whores"?
I think there are bigger problems than to be complaining about a discount!!!

If you really want to bring integrity back to the game, get a standard ball that everyone has throw in tournaments.

Nobody will go for that! (especially the manufactures and Pro-Shop owners).


 



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Re: Should PBA be allow to bowl against Avg Bowlers
« Reply #80 on: September 07, 2007, 09:45:13 PM »
I am not saying that the group should be eliminated from participating. I hope to be in that group (bowling 1-3 events per year) at some point. But what makes them Professional Bowlers? They purchased a "membership".

Does the PBA need the membership base... sure. My opinion is that it should actually mean that you have reached a certain level of accomplishment in bowling.

But.. back to the original topic: if you don't want to bowl against the best competition than only bowl in the events that "restrict" who can bowl. If you enter an "open" event than you can't complain if you get schooled...
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Re: Should PBA be allow to bowl against Avg Bowlers
« Reply #81 on: September 08, 2007, 07:39:54 AM »
What does everyone think of changing the average requirement to a sport shot, or PBA Exp. average requirement?
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Re: Should PBA be allow to bowl against Avg Bowlers
« Reply #82 on: September 08, 2007, 10:45:41 AM »
bhman,

I think most would a agree with your statement...but it all goes back to lanes will need to be checked regularly for this to happen. This is the problem.
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