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MrNattyBoh

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Sport Pattern League
« on: May 22, 2014, 08:57:29 AM »
Well I got my first taste of a sport pattern league this week! Boy do i need some work....lol....shot 155-144-192. NOT GOOD! however, i think with some practice and better concentration I think I can pull off 190 avg, well, that's my goal anyway. My first goal was to shoot 500 the first week and I failed. Spare shooting sucked until the last game and finding the pocket the first two games was like finding a needle in a haystack........we get to practice on the pattern the night before so i will definitely be taking advantage of that! I am looking forward to the challenge and sharpening my game and going to the next level! anyone else bowling sport pattern league for the first time this year?

 

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2014, 01:34:40 PM »
No not getting olde just get tired of the wasted energy of what something is called...too many variables as well as the largest one - who exactly is a 'pattern' created for? It has characteristics but exactly for who? Too many bowlers have lost track of what exactly their ball reaction is instead of what it's supposed to be as in, identify what your bowling ball is doing and adjust instead of saying a 'pattern' didn't play right...all that means is you didn't move your feet...too many uneducated bowlers with too many excuses...that may sound arrogant or egotistical but we managed to survive for a long time without names of the lane conditions we bowled on, just whether they were lower scoring or not...
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2014, 01:36:03 PM »
Too many get caught up in thinking that they are bowling on something instead of realizing what they are bowling on...
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2014, 01:44:06 PM »
Rico...maybe we mainland bowlers bowl too much THS and not enogh tougher patterns.

I just came back from overseas and the house I bowled as a kid put down WTBA patterns for their leagues all year round and switch it up during the season. I asked what pattern I was bowling on, and the boss/friend replied with the length - that was it. In fact, the other guys don't know the names of the pattern too, just the length. They seem not to care much about names or sheets, more real time stuff.



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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2014, 01:48:54 PM »
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2014, 01:52:27 PM »
Rico, 

I will repeat, I asked for a "starting point" line so I can adjust as efficiently as possible in the 10 minutes of practice time I have before league.    I agree with your thoughts I think you went off on a unrealeated tangent to my question.

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #51 on: July 07, 2014, 01:59:16 PM »
It's not solely directed at you but seriously the amount of variables involved for the simplicity of an answer is ludicrous....
Throw your bowling ball...if the length is longer, play closer to the pocket...then move your feet...you are relying on something less than your ability...for a 'true' answer that is not there
If you can't get lined up in 10 mins then you may seek a coach
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #52 on: July 07, 2014, 02:50:36 PM »
Lots more than just lining up, or being accurate.  The modern balls accompanied with the modern styles make most house bowlers too rev dominant,which inhibits their ability to play squarer through the heads. 

Watch the best pros ( O' Neil, Barnes, even Rash and Belmo)   They have learned how to use their ball speed and lower axis rotation to play straighter, even with their high rev rates.  That is what the pros know that most good THS shooters do not.  I do not disrespect guys who score high on house shots.  They are skilled, and more accurate than people believe.  What they usually lack is the versatility to square up and be comfortable, because they developed their game around swing area.  Swing area is addictive.  I remember as a kid even with rubber balls, I liked to hook the ball, and had a terrible time on fresh patterns   

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #53 on: July 07, 2014, 03:14:15 PM »
Lest we forget the importance of ABILITY to manipulate the hand at the bottom, multiple ways, ALL consistently.   ;)  ;)  ;)
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #54 on: July 08, 2014, 09:35:30 AM »
Well but that's just it, if you lock yourself into a starting point that ends up being nowhere close or doesn't fit your A game, you could make it worse on yourself than easier.  Another point is that you aren't the only person practicing for those 10 minutes.  You've got people on your pair and the pair next to you.  If you're just watching your ball reaction alone, you're already behind the curve.  Not to dump on you or anything, but sometimes you can overprepare . .  When I warm up, I glance at the sheet, but more or less to get an idea where everyone ELSE is going to play so when we move from pair to pair, I have a better idea where the transition is going to be.  But as far as warming up, I just get loose while I watch the reaction everyone else is getting in practice, and that tells me where to play.  I just throw a few verification shots before practice is over. 

Rico, 

I will repeat, I asked for a "starting point" line so I can adjust as efficiently as possible in the 10 minutes of practice time I have before league.    I agree with your thoughts I think you went off on a unrealeated tangent to my question.

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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #55 on: July 08, 2014, 09:56:37 AM »
I asked for a "starting point" line so I can adjust as efficiently as possible in the 10 minutes of practice time I have before league.

Well, won't you be getting that starting point in practice by simply reading your ball motion?  Seems to me you should (in 10 mins) be able to find out which zone of the lane (1st-2nd-3rd-4th arrow etc) you should start at. 

I think Wes Malott came up w/some system........try looking at that. 

I do have to note though, your ball motion should be dictating what you do and where you start.  I know what you want, you want someone to say "This is Shark, play 18-12 to start", but in reality every pattern is different and requires you to read your ball motion and go from there.
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #56 on: July 08, 2014, 10:01:07 AM »
Just to clarify my position since it has come across as crass or cynical...the environment that has been created for bowlers of all levels, today is a complete reliance on what they are being told their environment instead of truly understanding what it is.
Bowlers no longer understand 'how' to bowl and rely on how a piece of paper tells them to bowl.
Patterns have crippled the game more than any other entity by eliminating creativity and ability...the learning process is no longer honing your skills on the lanes but studying diagrams not understanding the variables that dictate reaction and motion - topography, pane surface (type and age), conditioner (length and volume), lane machine (as we as being properly tuned), cleaner and climate - inside and outside of center...not ever bowler will approach or attack a condition similarity - comfort zones have to be considered.
The manufacturers have not made the landscape much better with the latest greatest weekly repeat...MMs - just a different color piece of chocolate.
Bowlers need to get out and practice, learn their ball motion, understand their ball motion and learn how to adjust...quit relying on a magic bowling ball or piece of paper. 
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #57 on: July 08, 2014, 10:15:45 AM »
I have bowled a few events on "sport" patterns and it is funny. The word alone eliminates bowlers from showing up. A few events said it was a sport pattern, gave the length  of the pattern and the oil ratio. Turned out to be the normal house shot lol. This was missed by many because they bowled off what they thought the shot was and not what they were seeing.

Ive subbed a few times this summer on a sport league that puts out the same pattern two weeks in a row and then changes. The first week you have no idea the shot. The second week you know what to expect. I love it. You have to adjust and make spares. Averaging 200 has never been so much fun. Grinding out scores is an art. I prefer this. Spares are worth a lot more along with good shot repeating.

…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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« Reply #58 on: July 08, 2014, 10:16:37 AM »
Just to clarify my position since it has come across as crass or cynical...the environment that has been created for bowlers of all levels, today is a complete reliance on what they are being told their environment instead of truly understanding what it is.
Bowlers no longer understand 'how' to bowl and rely on how a piece of paper tells them to bowl.
Patterns have crippled the game more than any other entity by eliminating creativity and ability...the learning process is no longer honing your skills on the lanes but studying diagrams not understanding the variables that dictate reaction and motion - topography, pane surface (type and age), conditioner (length and volume), lane machine (as we as being properly tuned), cleaner and climate - inside and outside of center...not ever bowler will approach or attack a condition similarity - comfort zones have to be considered.
The manufacturers have not made the landscape much better with the latest greatest weekly repeat...MMs - just a different color piece of chocolate.
Bowlers need to get out and practice, learn their ball motion, understand their ball motion and learn how to adjust...quit relying on a magic bowling ball or piece of paper.

YES! 
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #59 on: July 08, 2014, 10:21:24 AM »
I guess I'm ahead of the game since I have no idea what any of the information on the sheets means.  I have to just react to what I'm seeing because I have no other option.
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Re: Sport Pattern League
« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2014, 10:28:27 AM »
Quit believing there's a predetermined path to the pocket on every 'pattern'
That's like assuming there is one way and only way to play a golf hole to succeed...not the case
As Joe stated BELIEVE YOUR EYES and REACT ACCORDINGLY
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