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Necromancer

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There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« on: March 25, 2007, 11:30:03 AM »
I came to this conclusion today as I saw yet another tournament filled with high performance balls just skid straight to the head pins by 200 + average bowlers.  What I really liked about this tournament is that Ebonite supposedly sponsored it and was giving Total NV balls to entrants that paid the extra fee.  What was funnier was watching these NV's nail the 3 pin shot after shot.  It really put a smile on my face to see what some call "The Greatest Bowling Ball Ever" look like garbage.  Some bowlers were even willing to trash their new NV's after the tournament.  So hilarious!

Back to the point.  I don't think any manufacturer should be able to say their ball performs on heavy oil.  In the end, no ball hooks in heavy oil and I don't care if you throw it 10 mph or put 600 rpms on the ball.  It will just go straight.  When you are in tournament conditions where the walls are flooded and the oil is spread past 50 feet, give me a break.  The best ball is a straight ball to the pocket.  Hooking is impossible.  

Bottom line: No HEAVY OIL bowling ball exists.  

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CRSmith

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2007, 08:21:46 PM »
The Greensburg open is a tough shot. Basically, a reverse block flooded outside 10 on both sides. The NV's should have been playing inside of 15 using the ball's length. The NV is not an oiler. I personally have yet to find one either. I have a Delta 1 that's supposed to cut through oil. Enough oil makes it a straight ball, regardless of manufacturer hype. Anyone playing straight up the boards outside 10 in the Greensburg Open will consistently pick off the 3-pin. I couldn't use my Delta 1 in the Open. I played deep using my old Triton Coral and managed a 601. Too much ball for inside. Not enough for outside. What squads did you guys bowl? I went last week in the 2PM.

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2007, 08:22:42 PM »
Awesome Hook or Total Shock & Awe, nuff said.

Necromancer

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2007, 08:24:41 PM »
I went last squad today at 12:30 pm.  It was packed with 5 guys per lane (10 per pair).  I shot 504.  I need to get around 620 to cash and 650 to make it to finals.  After the first game, I looked good.  Then the backends turned to doo doo.  That is when none of my balls reacted consistently and strikes were hard to come by. :/
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CRSmith

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2007, 08:28:57 PM »
It was packed for me as well. I didn't figure I was high enough to cash. I shot 4 games in the 180's last year. So 601 was an improvement.

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2007, 08:31:14 PM »
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It was packed for me as well. I didn't figure I was high enough to cash. I shot 4 games in the 180's last year. So 601 was an improvement.


601 is just a few marks short of cashing though.  Good job.  I saw very low scores today and very few 200 games.  Maybe the hardest conditions I have faced yet this year.  It helps you get better though.  After a tournament a couple weeks ago I came back to league play and nearly shot 300 and wound up just short of 700 series.
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Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Total Season Average: 205.642
2007 Year Average: 212.861
2007 Tournament Average: 161.167
The Vertigo is the best ball Storm ever made.  Find one if you can.
I might have the strongest drilled Black Widow in history.
Current Arsenal Gallery
H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
M: Storm X-Factor Vertigo, Ebonite Predator
M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
GEMS: Brunswick Quantum Helix, Brunswick Quantum Double Helix

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CRSmith

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2007, 08:37:21 PM »
It is a tough shot. But going back to your original thought, no matter what you throw outside in that much oil, it isn't going to cut through it and hook to the hole.

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2007, 08:40:22 PM »
Don't try to hook the ball. Let the ball roll and point it to the pocket. If you say gutter balls, someone doesn't know how to play oil. You dont throw gutters playing straight towards the hole.

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2007, 08:41:35 PM »
Uh?  Tombstone and Riptide?  LOL
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CRSmith

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2007, 08:44:17 PM »
Some had success pointing the ball. I buddy of mine couldn't hook a ball if you tilted the lane, but he can point it with the best of them. He might have cashed in Greensburg. Basically, those are your 2 options in this tournament.

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2007, 08:55:30 PM »
what about the blue alien from elite?.i know not alot of ppl have them but elite gaurantees this ball will out hook anything. so wouldnt it be ideal for the heaviest of oil?

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2007, 09:10:19 PM »
Well the TNVs are not designed for heavy oil so if you are anyone was using it during said tournement you deserve low scores for not grabbing something more aggresive and !ADJUSTING! In my View, after reading your current aresenal you have nothing that was meant to be used on a flood, if you want to see a heavy oil ball try MoRich's Awesome Hook, or Columbia's EPXt1, or possibly Roto's Epic Battle.


Sorry, if that sounds like an attack it was the best way to word it I could come up with.

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2007, 09:14:04 PM »
quote:
Well the TNVs are not designed for heavy oil so if you are anyone was using it during said tournement you deserve low scores for not grabbing something more aggresive and !ADJUSTING! In my View, after reading your current aresenal you have nothing that was meant to be used on a flood, if you want to see a heavy oil ball try MoRich's Awesome Hook, or Columbia's EPXt1, or possibly Roto's Epic Battle.


Sorry, if that sounds like an attack it was the best way to word it I could come up with.

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I take all advice like a man.  I just reviewed my arsenal (listed and not listed) and I see no solid particle balls!  I got a bunch of reactives.  I do have the Afterburner and it is a Particle Pearl meant for super dry conditions.  I am going to load up on some PARTICLE balls and maybe the EPX epoxy.  
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Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm Recharge
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Total Season Average: 205.642
2007 Year Average: 212.861
2007 Tournament Average: 161.167
The Vertigo is the best ball Storm ever made.  Find one if you can.
I might have the strongest drilled Black Widow in history.
Current Arsenal Gallery
H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
M: Storm X-Factor Vertigo, Ebonite Predator
M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
GEMS: Brunswick Quantum Helix, Brunswick Quantum Double Helix

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pro shop guy

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2007, 09:22:26 PM »
Visionary AMB Particle.....ENOUGH SAID>>>>>LOL

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2007, 09:28:14 PM »
Does Storm have a Particle ball currently?  Maybe the reason why I have no particle balls is because I was a Storm exclusive bowler for a long time.  Although I bought other balls from other companies, all my performance balls used to be from Storm.  I might have solved the mystery!
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Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm Recharge
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Total Season Average: 205.642
2007 Year Average: 212.861
2007 Tournament Average: 161.167
The Vertigo is the best ball Storm ever made.  Find one if you can.
I might have the strongest drilled Black Widow in history.
Current Arsenal Gallery
H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
M: Storm X-Factor Vertigo, Ebonite Predator
M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
GEMS: Brunswick Quantum Helix, Brunswick Quantum Double Helix

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Necromancer

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Re: There is NO Such Thing As A Heavy Oil Bowling Ball
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2007, 09:35:59 PM »
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Visionary AMB Particle.....ENOUGH SAID>>>>>LOL


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Current Arsenal
Storm X-Factor Vertigo
Hammer Black Widow
Lane #1 Cobalt Bomb Solid
Storm Trauma ER
Storm Recharge
Ebonite Vortex Afterburner
Columbia 300 Messenger Ti
Storm Hit Blue Pearl
Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
Total Season Average: 205.642
2007 Year Average: 212.861
2007 Tournament Average: 161.167
The Vertigo is the best ball Storm ever made.  Find one if you can.
I might have the strongest drilled Black Widow in history.
Current Arsenal Gallery
H: Brunswick Fury, Columbia 300 EPX T1
M-H: Storm Shift Gravity, Hammer Black Widow
M: Storm X-Factor Vertigo, Ebonite Predator
M-L: Storm Recharge
S: Viz-A-Ball White
Bench: Brunswick Target Spare Zone, Ebonite 14 Fun Ball
GEMS: Brunswick Quantum Helix, Brunswick Quantum Double Helix

2008-09 Year 215.000 2008-09 Tourney 177.360 Last Tourney 182.667

Hall of Fame BR Member Since: April 3, 2001


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