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imjouster

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Thumb Popping in release
« on: June 27, 2006, 07:01:50 AM »
I've been having a problem recently with my thumbhole popping when I release the ball.  normally I couldn't care less, but in this case its popping at different times so I'll release the ball a different way every time.  My proshop guy is out of town at Bowl Expo.  does anybody have any suggestions for a quick easy fix to quit the popping without really changing the thumbhole too much.  If I take tape out I'll end up gripping the ball and it will stick to my thumb even worse.  I was thinking about a vent hole, but I don't know the size of drill bit to use or any of that crap.  Thanks in advance

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Re: Thumb Popping in release
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 04:29:14 PM »
You say you hear the thumb release pop at different times?? Sounds like your timing isnt consistant on every approach to the line. I would look into that personally. I know a guy near me that uses a mental 5 count during his approach, smoothed out his game very well and gained him 15 pins to his average. As for the poping during your release, does it hurt? If not then you should be fine. I have a minor pop from my release, depends on which ball im using also. Doesnt effect me.
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Re: Thumb Popping in release
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2006, 04:40:11 PM »
I do have a timing problem,  been working on it recently,  haven't really thought of that being a reason why the balls comming off my hand at different points, but it definately could be a big reason.  I'd still like to get the ball to stop popping, I've never had a problem with it popping before, and all though it doesn't exactly hurt, my thumb will get sore after a while, which is something else I haven't experienced,  This is happening with just about every ball, so its not just one ball being drilled wrong.  thanks for the thoughts.

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Re: Thumb Popping in release
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2006, 05:23:31 PM »
if your pro shop can, have them drill a vent hole,..he'll know what you're asking for if he's good.

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Re: Thumb Popping in release
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2006, 06:46:54 PM »
I just had another thought for the reason of the thumb poping. Are you sure that your not gripping the ball through your release? That will cause the poping during your release, could also be the cause of your timing too. More food for thought.
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Re: Thumb Popping in release
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2006, 07:29:43 PM »
I've always had a problem with gripping through my release.  I know its bad, and I've done some things to correct it.  I'm using a tighter thumbhole than I used to and its ovaled so that I don't have as much room to "knuckle the ball"  I've gotten a lot better about not gripping it,  but I do notice that when I take a piece of tape out of my equipment the ball actually sticks to my thumb more because I do grip it,  what can I say, my game is in knots right now, and with Jr. Gold commming up thats not exactly a good thing .  But even when I'm not bowling and I just stick my hand in the ball and slowly pull my thumb out I find that my thumb sticks and then releases.  but like I said, if I take a piece of tape out, it just sticks more.  its really odd, something I've never had problems with before.

Jimen...  My proshop operator is out of town down at bowl expo so can't really do anything there,  if you can just do it with a drill bit and a drill I could do it myself,  I'm just not sure on the proper size of bit to use, angle, etc.

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Re: Thumb Popping in release
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 10:05:21 PM »
Sounds like an issue of mental trust with your release. Id go out an practice with no tape in any of the balls and just stay relaxed with your grip and swing. If you drop it at 1st dont worry about, push on. Its only practice, its not for scores its just to help you and your game. Once you can get out of the ball smooth your roll will improve, your rev rate will increase and maybe your accuracy will also improve. No telling what will happen once your release problems are cured.
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Re: Thumb Popping in release
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 11:33:16 PM »
well went out tonight after my last post and tried some things.  was thinking about changing my bevel on my equipment since I do have a bevel and a sander here at the house.  decided to see if there was any equipment that I had that didn't pop.  there wasn't,  it kept on feeling like it was gripping the back of my thumb and that thats where the suction causing the popping was comming from.  then something hit me,  I have some of the Yellow Vise Grips tape in my bag,  I've seen people use it on their thumbs and fingers.  so I took a strip of it and put it on the back of my thumb, tried rolling a shot, there was still a pop but it was so much quieter than it had been,  Like BigAu said, its a fairly slick tape and I come out of the ball much smoother,  as far as having more revs.  that would suck,  I have problems on dry conditions as it is .  thanks everyone for the advice,  Think I found something that will work.  

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Re: Thumb Popping in release
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2006, 06:28:54 AM »
I was actually going to suggest you try some tape on the thumb.  I am a big fan of this personally, it helps me snug up my thumb hole but still gives me a clean release.
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Re: Thumb Popping in release
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2006, 07:01:22 AM »
3 things to check that come into my mind:

a) pin position on ball.
For a high tracker, a very high pin (more than 1 " above finger holes) can result in a thumb hole position that gest it very close to the track.

b) wrist poistion
If you bend back your wrist, consciously or unconsciously, the track might move higher than usual, aven between thumb and finger holes (like a full roller). Concentration, some wrist training or a wrist device might help.

c) Finger pressure and finger grips/holes
Finally, with an uneven pressure of the fingers upon release, the track might move higher, too.

Some background... A friend of mine had the problem of clipping his thumb and even finger holes on just 1 ball some weeks ago, without a clue why. The ball reacted erratically, and carry was so so out of a sudden. Great riddle.

The solution (we hope it is!) was simple and complex at the same time: His middle finger hole with power lift grips had broken in some time ago, and he fixed it with super glue. Some small pieces of the coverstock must have slipped between ball and grip, and the superglue "baked" them into a small hump just under his grip point of the middle finger. the result was un even pressure, and a lack of ring finger power. this shifted the track almost 1" towards the thumb and caused the clipping (it even hit the finger holes sometimes!).

The ball is to be refilled soon, but this seems to be the cause for the troble.
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