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Buzzhead

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To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« on: January 23, 2009, 12:24:47 AM »
Map pricing has ended, so prices are now VERY much in line or LOWER than the top of the line stuff from other companies.

Go out and buy one and see for your cheap selves now.

There is a difference....

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FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!

Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2009, 12:06:27 PM »
I've gone so far as to buy them and use them..

I guess RS just doesn't like me or my bowling style because NONE of his stuff produced the miracle that others seem to enjoy..

It's just a ball and an average one at that..


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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2009, 12:18:46 PM »
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Ive been getting that feeling here buzzhead,,i have a strange rule..if ive never used it i dont comment on it,,kinda weird huh,,were theese peoples families killed by lane 1 balls???


I had a Cobalt Bomb Solid and strong drill and I was lucky if the ball did anything and I was going up 5 straight up.  The ball is a good spare ball.  Every now and then I guess that diamond inside decides to work and it will hook somewhat in the pocket.  Most of the time though it hits light and if it hits at all it will usually leave the 10 pin.  Since all the balls have that lame diamond core, that pretty much sums up what Lane #1 is all about.
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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2009, 12:26:43 PM »
I've thrown Lane#1 equipment....my take on it is this:

It is overhyped, and overpriced for the balls they are giving to the consumer. And the reason they are ovehyped is because as we all now in today's world, hype makes right. They are producing average equipment, with an average weight block. The physics of it are debatable, Lane#1 says it's core is better then any other shape, but those shapes tested are squares, triangles, circles, not true weight block shapes. Now maybe it is better, maybe it isn't but the physics proof is a joke. I would compare this to the Bruswick BVP line, the Storm Fire Line and I think it would match up well, but not against high end equipment which is why I say they are overpriced. Just my opinions after throwing 2-3 different Lane #1 balls.
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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2009, 12:45:27 PM »
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I've thrown Lane#1 equipment....my take on it is this:

It is overhyped, and overpriced for the balls they are giving to the consumer. And the reason they are ovehyped is because as we all now in today's world, hype makes right. They are producing average equipment, with an average weight block. The physics of it are debatable, Lane#1 says it's core is better then any other shape, but those shapes tested are squares, triangles, circles, not true weight block shapes. Now maybe it is better, maybe it isn't but the physics proof is a joke. I would compare this to the Bruswick BVP line, the Storm Fire Line and I think it would match up well, but not against high end equipment which is why I say they are overpriced. Just my opinions after throwing 2-3 different Lane #1 balls.
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Me and Jorge300 agree!

On the weightblock, one huge flaw that Lane #1 never provides a 'proof' for.  Sure they can trick the average bowler but not a physics student of 2 years at VT.  Yeah the diamond core for what they want is superior to a square, cylinder, and circle.  However, they fail to take into account density, and fail to advance the diamond core to anything else.  It is about equal to a bomb core of the late 90's in many balls across different brands.  The diamond is just there to give the ball hype that it may somehow be so different.  With the very basic and symmetrical diamond core, you won't see much of a sharp breakpoint or awesome hook that Lane #1 claims to provide.
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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2009, 12:55:50 PM »
I've never thrown a Lane 1 ball, but there's a dude in league who uses them.  He's a straighter guy, and the ball fits his game really well, averages 200 and is always near the pocket.  

From what I've seen, when the ball turns over and goes from the hook to roll phases, there's very little change of direction.  That's been a turn off to me, but it could also just be the bowler.  

But Storm gear works so well for me, "if it ain't broke don't fix it" applies to me here
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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2009, 01:08:57 PM »
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Me and Jorge300 agree!




Uh-oh.....I think that is one of the signs of the Apocalypse....it's not waiting until 2012.....RUUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!


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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2009, 01:10:28 PM »
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I've never thrown a Lane 1 ball, but there's a dude in league who uses them.  He's a straighter guy, and the ball fits his game really well, averages 200 and is always near the pocket.  

From what I've seen, when the ball turns over and goes from the hook to roll phases, there's very little change of direction.  That's been a turn off to me, but it could also just be the bowler.  

But Storm gear works so well for me, "if it ain't broke don't fix it" applies to me here
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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2009, 02:42:21 PM »

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That diamond core is a joke if you look at the physics behind it. But they didn't, all they did was say 'what cool shape can you put in a bowling ball?'.



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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2009, 02:52:17 PM »
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Ahem,....
Grrr.....
 


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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2009, 02:59:12 PM »
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I've thrown Lane#1 equipment....my take on it is this:

It is overhyped, and overpriced for the balls they are giving to the consumer. And the reason they are ovehyped is because as we all now in today's world, hype makes right. They are producing average equipment, with an average weight block. The physics of it are debatable, Lane#1 says it's core is better then any other shape, but those shapes tested are squares, triangles, circles, not true weight block shapes. Now maybe it is better, maybe it isn't but the physics proof is a joke. I would compare this to the Bruswick BVP line, the Storm Fire Line and I think it would match up well, but not against high end equipment which is why I say they are overpriced. Just my opinions after throwing 2-3 different Lane #1 balls.
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Me and Jorge300 agree!

On the weightblock, one huge flaw that Lane #1 never provides a 'proof' for.  Sure they can trick the average bowler but not a physics student of 2 years at VT.  Yeah the diamond core for what they want is superior to a square, cylinder, and circle.  However, they fail to take into account density, and fail to advance the diamond core to anything else.  It is about equal to a bomb core of the late 90's in many balls across different brands.  The diamond is just there to give the ball hype that it may somehow be so different.  With the very basic and symmetrical diamond core, you won't see much of a sharp breakpoint or awesome hook that Lane #1 claims to provide.


how bout the 16 year engineer,

the principal behind their logic is sound, the physics portion is sound, anyone with any knowledge of how a gyroscope works knows what this core does and why is spins the way it does.  lots of people  (read physics experts on this site) tend to forget about energy transfer and how that energy expels from a moving object (simple energy transfer for those who want to look)

as far as your crappy solid cobalt bomb.  ever pick up the phone and discuss it with lane 1?  probably not, had you done that more then likely the ball would have been replaced, many balls got out with mismarked pins when the big company in Muskegon was pouring for them

I deal with friction, motion and energy transfer every day, Dr Joes findings are very sound, as is the physics study that was done at Syracuse University, that secured the patent on the diamond block.

now show my your proof?  I can back mine up with studies and sound facts, how bout you?
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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2009, 03:05:09 PM »
If Lane #1 went back to basic diamond cores (away from the bomb type cores), and Brunswick poured covers, I would consider buying one again.  Until then, I respectfully decline to purchase another Lane #1 ball.  I threw them for years and had good success with the older core/cover combos, but never had success with Lane #1 equipment once they split from Big B.  It's all about matchups, and they just don't match up well to my game anymore.
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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2009, 03:19:20 PM »
The reason I have only tried one or two is the fact my pro shop does not handle them. He does not buy enough of them to get a good price on them. He told me today if I want to get a lane 1 he would drill it for 40.00 and I think that is fair. Have had some success with a older one I had.
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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2009, 03:20:37 PM »
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Me and Jorge300 agree!




Uh-oh.....I think that is one of the signs of the Apocalypse....it's not waiting until 2012.....RUUUUUUUUUNNNNNN!!!


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Wow, I agree with both of them..
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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2009, 03:21:03 PM »
If someone gives me a lane#1 ball for free, i'll bowl with it and see how it does.

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Re: To EVERYONE thats ever whined about L#1
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2009, 04:33:00 PM »
The only Lane 1 I've ever thrown was the XXXL, so its probably not a good indication of the rest of their line, but I from my limited experience I like the company.