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xrayjay

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Two hand haters check this out
« on: June 06, 2015, 08:06:35 PM »
Not sure if this is old news but, The guy in the video states it's not two hand release. But rather, a two hand approach....


http://www.usbcbowlingacademy.com/video/bowling-rules-005832/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=cm&utm_campaign=video

I wonder if machuga agrees...does he still hate two hand bowlers?
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Re: Two hand haters check this out
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2015, 03:14:51 PM »
Most bowlers are cheap, feel entitled, and whine....
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Re: Two hand haters check this out
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2015, 05:33:46 PM »
Hey now, I don't whine....That the problem with people today, everyone thinks that bowlers whine about everything. I don't whine!!! I don't!!! You're just a *&$% and a @$^!(&* and most certainly a #@$%*()&!!

/sarcasm off  :P
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Re: Two hand haters check this out
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2015, 07:50:46 AM »
Two handed is the future of bowling. As time goes on you are going to see more and more kids comming up from the youth leagues with this style.
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Re: Two hand haters check this out
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2015, 08:55:02 AM »
I'm still trying to find out exactly why I should care how someone else throws the ball. 

I mean, I'm cognizant of how two-handers affect lane-play and transition, but why would anyone care about the manner in which someone delivers the ball?

Can someone help me w/this?
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Re: Two hand haters check this out
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2015, 09:54:22 AM »
Quote from: Good Times Good Times on June 11, 2015, 08:55:02 AM
I'm still trying to find out exactly why I should care how someone else throws the ball. 

I mean, I'm cognizant of how two-handers affect lane-play and transition, but why would anyone care about the manner in which someone delivers the ball?

Can someone help me w/this?

I am guessing it has something to do with USBC Right Hand versus Left Hand Rule. Also there has been issues with the "not using a thumb hole" (ball having two extra holes). As someone who has read the USBC Rules many times over and having been involved in league disputes, it is truly amazing how many bowlers will:

a. Insert their own rule into USBC Rules.
b. Totally miss interpret a rule to fit a situation that will benefit them.
c. Use the phrase "Common sense should prevail in this situation".

Some bowlers have issues watching a two handed bowler destroying the pin deck shot after shot. He is doing something they can't do, so therefore it should be banned.
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Re: Two hand haters check this out
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2015, 10:31:41 AM »
My 11 yr old boy is taking up bowling and prefers two hands. If GTGT is right, and more and more two handed bowlers fill up leagues and the bowling scene...... they might make 4 lbs. pins!!... it'll be interesting if they do that. By the that time I'm a senior bowler and my 14 mph ball speed will leave more 5 pins than 10. I'll be a great spare shooter lol
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Re: Two hand haters check this out
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2015, 10:47:39 AM »
So Shawn Maldonado uses both hands in his backswing, but he puts his thumb in the ball.  If your complaint is that a two hand on ball approach is an advantage due to rev rate and not putting their thumb in the ball, what are you going to bitch about with Shawn? What about the player that can use one hand but doesn't put his thumb in? Niether player fits the definition of "classic" bowling style, but both use a modified, powerful style to generate a potential advantage. And if it is such a big advantage, why has Robert Smith gone back to a conventional grip to drop revs?
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2015, 12:29:51 PM »
I know one of the complaints some of the people have stated is a two hander (no thumb) can use loose inserts so that they can flip the ball around if they want.  A pin down becomes a pin up, a pin kicked out left would become a pin kicked out right, etc.

They have said that this is an advantage that someone using their thumb cannot do.

They have seen drill patterns where the feature has been used as an advantage in ball reaction.

I guess maybe in a tournament that limits the number of balls a bowler may use this is an extra advantage for no thumb bowlers.



The other concern I have heard, but was addressed recently by USBC was that 2 handers would have what they claimed was a thumb hole, in some place that was physically impossible for their thumb to reach.  It was in reality an extra weight hole designed to improve ball reaction.   
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2015, 02:55:36 PM »
A very talented two handed bowler in our area tried to a use a ball without the thumb insert. Coach of another team caught him throwing it, and told him it was illegal. I am not sure if there is advantage to having a huge thumb hole, but it is illegal.

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Re: Two hand haters check this out
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2015, 09:32:11 PM »
I don't care about two handed bowlers. The only thing Belmo getting bragged up by Randy Pederson everytime the PBA is on is what angers me.
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