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xrayjay

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under 300 revs and 300
« on: January 14, 2015, 04:24:24 PM »
I just had a thought a while ago today.....

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there are very few multiple 300 games owned by bowlers (non pro) who have less than 300 rpms. They may have one or two, but with all the 300's I've seen thrown by the same people, not one of them threw under 300 rpms.

Makes me believe league bowlers with 200 to 275 rpms are in an up hill climb to get that 300 game. Guys with hand and their wider room for error have a better chance to get multiple 300 games under their belt.





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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2015, 02:02:59 PM »
With how strong the covers are today, I think speed is a bigger factor for striking than having a massive hook.  At high speeds, todays covers will still rev up on the back part of the lane, even with higher speed giving the ball less time on the friction.  You could not do this with balls from 15 or 20 years ago.  If you get the ball to rev up just before the 1 -3 you are going to increase your chance to strike.  Earl Anthony once said that the main thing he focused on (besides accuracy) was getting the ball to be at it's maximum revolutions at the pocket.  With todays balls you can get a ball to read the friction at high speeds giving you massive RPMs at the pocket.  And with the stronger covers and cores, you don't really need much hand to create enough movement to get you enough angle to strike consistently.
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2015, 02:14:53 PM »
I have 42 300's and 13 800's since 1976.  Have never topped 300 rpms, and was usually closer to 250.  Prior to the introduction of the resin ball in 1992, I think lower rev guys were at a disadvantage for 300's.  Not the case in the resin era. 

I think easy and consistent lane conditions create many of the 300s that you see today.   There is usually no "figuring out the shot".  You usually get the same exact shot at the same center from day to day.  We have precision lane machines that place oil down like an inkjet printer exactly where you want it and exactly how much you want.  As you go back, the way to oil lanes becomes more and more archaic.  It was pretty much a trial and error guess and you needed someone that knew what they were doing to get something consistent.  They used to use a bug sprayer and a floor mop for good sake.  To get a 300 on conditions like that is pretty amazing.
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2015, 03:38:43 PM »
Actually, the big thing I have seen over the years is a proliferation of 300's accompanied by less than stellar series.  There was a time when it was almost unheard of to see a 300 game without a 700 series.  Today not so much.  The reason is the resin balls are a double edged sword.  The can destroy the pins, but they also blow up the lane pattern so fast that staying on the shot is much more difficult than it was in the polyester or urethane eras.  I would say that in at least 10 of the 300 games I have shot in the resin era, I moved once or twice during the course of the game, in anticipation of the lane transition.  Never had that happen prior to resin.  I once shot a 300 out of the gate in a four game league, and only had once double and didn't crack 200 the rest of the night.  That is extreme.  At the other end of the spectrum I have seen guys shoot 300 after a brutally difficult pattern opens up over the course of 5 or 6 games. 

No matter how you slice it the pocket is tougher to stay in over the course of a couple of games today, even on house shots, than it was pre resin. 

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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2015, 03:57:10 PM »
Actually, the big thing I have seen over the years is a proliferation of 300's accompanied by less than stellar series.  There was a time when it was almost unheard of to see a 300 game without a 700 series.  Today not so much.  The reason is the resin balls are a double edged sword.  The can destroy the pins, but they also blow up the lane pattern so fast that staying on the shot is much more difficult than it was in the polyester or urethane eras.  I would say that in at least 10 of the 300 games I have shot in the resin era, I moved once or twice during the course of the game, in anticipation of the lane transition.  Never had that happen prior to resin.  I once shot a 300 out of the gate in a four game league, and only had once double and didn't crack 200 the rest of the night.  That is extreme.  At the other end of the spectrum I have seen guys shoot 300 after a brutally difficult pattern opens up over the course of 5 or 6 games. 

No matter how you slice it the pocket is tougher to stay in over the course of a couple of games today, even on house shots, than it was pre resin. 

good point.  They talk about the high scores at the USBC national tournament last year. Do you think the ICE oil had anything to do with it, being that it is supposed to allow the shot to hold up better?
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2015, 06:48:08 PM »
I liked the shot on the ice.  Didn't see so much over under off the end of the oil, and transitions were slower for me.  In all honesty I don't know if it was the ice, or the longer pattern on the team, which produced the best scores.