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xrayjay

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under 300 revs and 300
« on: January 14, 2015, 04:24:24 PM »
I just had a thought a while ago today.....

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there are very few multiple 300 games owned by bowlers (non pro) who have less than 300 rpms. They may have one or two, but with all the 300's I've seen thrown by the same people, not one of them threw under 300 rpms.

Makes me believe league bowlers with 200 to 275 rpms are in an up hill climb to get that 300 game. Guys with hand and their wider room for error have a better chance to get multiple 300 games under their belt.





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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2015, 04:37:50 PM »
Figjam=off, this is just a personal reply.
Sorry, I have to take exception to this one. I'll agree higher percentage probability, but I'm below 300 rpms and have 7, including one night back-to-back (3rd and 4th games, so it technically didn't "count" for b-2-b recognition and who knows what the next game would have been...). My brother is maybe 300 on a good day, and he has 13 bowling 1 night a week (he's kinda a natural, but I won't admit that...) . Man, I'd love to swing it, but that's not my game. Targeting hasn't been lost as a concept, and repitition is king.
It can be done, but everyone wants to hook it, so they don't bother with the details.
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2015, 05:09:18 PM »
I disagree. I've got a few guys that bowl by me. Both are 65+ years old and carry 220-230 averages with multiple 300s and 800s. However they can only do one thing...play straight. Accuracy must be your best friend if you're rev challenged
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2015, 05:54:03 PM »
Quote from: lefty50 on January 14, 2015, 04:37:50 PM
Figjam=off, this is just a personal reply.
Sorry, I have to take exception to this one. I'll agree higher percentage probability, but I'm below 300 rpms and have 7, including one night back-to-back (3rd and 4th games, so it technically didn't "count" for b-2-b recognition and who knows what the next game would have been...). My brother is maybe 300 on a good day, and he has 13 bowling 1 night a week (he's kinda a natural, but I won't admit that...) . Man, I'd love to swing it, but that's not my game. Targeting hasn't been lost as a concept, and repitition is king.
It can be done, but everyone wants to hook it, so they don't bother with the details.
Rant=off...

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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2015, 06:36:15 PM »
Are you going off measured rev rates or what guys tell you they are?  There are plenty of people that think they are 350 and are really about 275.

Rev rate is like driver distance.  Perception and reality are about 20% apart.
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2015, 09:45:18 PM »
Quote from: itsallaboutme on January 14, 2015, 06:36:15 PM
Are you going off measured rev rates or what guys tell you they are?  There are plenty of people that think they are 350 and are really about 275.

Rev rate is like driver distance.  Perception and reality are about 20% apart.

240 Revs and 240 Driver Carry Distance for me......275 and 275 seems so far away
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2015, 10:09:49 PM »
Revs are largely misunderstood.  It's not that they don't help, it's just that they need to match up with the bowler's speed and release characteristics.  Slower speeds with high revs is tough to control, while high speed with low revs is also not optimal.

Many a bowler has gotten "lost" while trying to create/maximize revs and hook.  "Bowl like you do" and learn to repeat shots, and you'll find a way to score.
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2015, 12:29:20 AM »
Angle carries.   :)
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2015, 03:53:20 AM »
Under 300 here.....10 300 games and 3 800 sets. Accuracy is the key.

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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2015, 08:11:38 AM »
I think it all depends on where the CG is placed in respect to the bowlers revs & speed... Very important.
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2015, 08:19:22 AM »
Just watch Anthony Pepe. (yeah I know he is a lefty) but this guy has been beating up folks at local tourneys for a while before the cheetah win and he has a low rev release. Strong cores that rev up fast will help the low rev player.  If you ever watch the Storm propaganda piece on the Crux, that core is so strong it looks like it revs up after the guys drop it.
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2015, 08:37:04 AM »
I think a lot of women bowlers would also disagree with the OP.

My fiance had (5) 300s, (4) 800s and (2) 290s in her last year of competitive bowling.  Her former college teammate recently tied the women's 3-game record with a 300, 279, 300 (879) series.  Neither of them are near 300 rpms and I would definitely put my money on them against most anyone.
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2015, 09:11:24 AM »
We have a nice firm righty with about 250 revs in our league 3 300s in the last 3 weeks.

Another couple of ideas for you, Walter Ray Williams and Mika(maybe 300 revs).

Speed, levelness of delivery, attack angle!

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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2015, 10:40:54 AM »
I have 42 300's and 13 800's since 1976.  Have never topped 300 rpms, and was usually closer to 250.  Prior to the introduction of the resin ball in 1992, I think lower rev guys were at a disadvantage for 300's.  Not the case in the resin era. 
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Re: under 300 revs and 300
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2015, 11:27:29 AM »
so i am wrong, great to know....

It is true about todays bowling then, for here in the Mainland for that matter... Then there are thousands of low rev bowlers nowadays with multiple 300's and/or 800's compared to the past??? all because of the playing conditions and ball technology. And maybe these factors are why league bowling has declined over the decade.

Yes one has to be accurate and have a skill/mental foundation. but just last month before christmas break, my buddy who has less than 250 rpm with 177 average shoots his first 300 with the crossroad I sold him. He did not hit the same line/bp in every shot. it was in or out, but it found the pocket light or high. (in fact two other guys that bought balls from me had shot 300's and both low rev lefty and a senior bowler - invasion and vivid)

I remember growing up and seeing people get so excited for 200 games. and for 300's, open bar for the pair for an hour! and whatever ABC gave ......
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