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bradl

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USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« on: April 27, 2023, 04:11:33 PM »

Subject says it all.


Everyone said it was coming, but thankfully - so far - it isn't coming the way that everyone thinks it is coming. Glad to see that the results are going to be different than what we expect and that free fall pinsetters are not going anywhere as they remain the gold standard for the sport. It will be interesting to see if the JBC, KBC, Europe, and the WTBA also moves to adopt this; if they don't, then this will only be for the US, which may mean this doesn't really go anywhere without heavy push for adoption worldwide.

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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2023, 06:06:27 PM »
Canada and Europe already sanction string pins.

While the USBC is certifying string pins as a specific category, it now allows centers to install them and still hold sanctioned leagues.  As the cost of repairing older free fall units increases, and the number of experienced mechanics decreases, more centers will install string pinsetters.

Our local Bowlero is trying to fill a position for a lead mechanic.  They want someone with 5+ years prior experience and they are looking to pay $82K/yr plus benefits.  The simplicity of string pins means they don't need mechanics with years of experience and can save money on staff.  They can teach any employee on staff how to quickly and safely clear a tangle in a very short amount of time.

It will definitely be interesting to see what happens.  I expect to see string pins become increasingly common in the next 5 years.

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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2023, 09:34:29 AM »
As Bowler said, here in the UK we are really moving into string pins. They have been sanctioned by our BTBA for over 3 years.

I know that there has been a bit of a boom in small, 8 or less lanes centres being built over the last 6 years and every one of them is string pins. I have not heard of one free fall centre being opened.

Also two of the largest chains in the UK (Hollywood, Tenpin) are going entirely string pins asap. Everyone I’ve spoken to has said the same thing. Cost and difficulty in getting an experienced head tech.

Sad but understandable.
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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2023, 06:18:16 AM »
If string pins are put in place -- I will QUIT bowling permanently. Period. I know not many will care what I say but I am sure I am not the only one who feels that string pins take something away from the game and I will NOT be a part of this.
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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2023, 06:48:11 AM »
I couldn't agree more and like you said, know one will probably care what we think but, I care....

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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2023, 10:45:42 PM »
I'll quit bowling too if string pins become the norm. USBC says there isn't much difference between the two types of pinsetters. But there's enough difference to make me walk away from the sport altogether. I'd rather the sport go back to pinboys than move forward with strings.

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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2023, 05:27:09 AM »
I'll quit bowling too if string pins become the norm. USBC says there isn't much difference between the two types of pinsetters. But there's enough difference to make me walk away from the sport altogether. I'd rather the sport go back to pinboys than move forward with strings.
yep -there is NO WAY it will be the same reaction. I will not accept it period. So if they want to KILL this sport completely this is the way to do it. So listen up to the owners ---- people will QUIT just like me.
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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2023, 07:48:24 AM »
No one cares. It is the bowling centers choice on what they want to buy for their center for pins. String pins, Twister pins, no pins.

 Im sure people felt the same way about synthetic lanes, oil machines, automatic pin setters, electric score keeping, central heat and air, and plenty of other things. Just quit and move on.
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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2023, 08:46:23 AM »
From the videos I've seen all the one handers should hope for more of the string machines.  They pretty much take the messenger strike out of the game.

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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2023, 11:27:31 AM »
There is a huge difference between USBC certified string pinsetters and non-certified. Many of the YouTube videos highlighting strange carry on strings are on non-certified string machines. Videos shot on actual certified strings show very few questionable hits in comparison.

I would have no issue bowling on USBC certified string pins if it means I can continue bowling. Couldn't care less about lack of messengers or pin carry of that nature.

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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2023, 02:36:00 PM »
I will quit as well if we go to strings, since 1980 I have been trying to promote the sport, thru the pro shop I worked part time and my local leagues, but , really, strings?, what’s next a remote control bowling ball?

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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2023, 05:16:25 AM »
No one cares. It is the bowling centers choice on what they want to buy for their center for pins. String pins, Twister pins, no pins.

 Im sure people felt the same way about synthetic lanes, oil machines, automatic pin setters, electric score keeping, central heat and air, and plenty of other things. Just quit and move on.
I am sure no one cares what I think, just like you. But just watch this sport disapear. Just like I will.
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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2023, 11:13:15 PM »
Money talks and any report I see has probably been paid for in some way, shape, or form.  String Pinsetters will never be the same as free falling pinsetters and even though USBC might sanction string  bowling (and collect from the participants), they should keep averages separate.  Now, how do averages translate to tournaments?

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Re: USBC Releases String Pinsetter Report
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2023, 07:58:56 AM »
Money talks and any report I see has probably been paid for in some way, shape, or form.  String Pinsetters will never be the same as free falling pinsetters and even though USBC might sanction string  bowling (and collect from the participants), they should keep averages separate.  Now, how do averages translate to tournaments?
again it won't matter to me because I won't attend
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