win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please  (Read 30057 times)

squirrelywrath1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« on: September 06, 2012, 10:08:33 PM »
Hello everybody!

I have a Vintage Columbia White Dot that I need to determine about how old it is.  I've already contacted Columbia 300, but it's been 3-4 days now with no reply.

Anyway, the box is beat to hell.   Says it was made in San Antonio.   The serial number is #6Y39718 if that helps.   No drill sheet included.

Anyone have any idea?


 

Juggernaut

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6498
  • Former good bowler, now 3 games a week house hack.
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 10:35:00 PM »
 Columbia300 was bought out by Ebonite recently, so anything made prior to the buyout probably isn't going to get much attention from the new owners, who wouldn't be able to tell you anyway.

 The first number is the serial number is a 6. That denotes the fact that it was produced in a year that ended with the number 6, as in 1976, 1986, 1996,........

 I don't know that anybody ever really tracks the balls by serial number, so the actual date of production may be lost forever.

 If it was made in San Antonio, it was probably prior to 2006, because many companies were having their polyester balls produced overseas by that time, so it is probably older than 2006 at least.

 Can you post a picture of it? Believe it or not, the look of the whitedot has changed over the years, and some officionados might be able to get very close to the date just from the way the ball looks.
Learn to laugh, and love, and smile, cause we’re only here for a little while.

squirrelywrath1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 11:01:28 PM »
Thank you Juggernaut.   I was guessing sometime in the 80's.   This ball has the old logo without the big "WD" on the side.  It also punches up around 80-81 on my durometer, (harder than the ones being made today).

I will see about posting a photo sometime tomorrow.

Smash49

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2136
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 11:06:36 PM »
A picture of the logo might help.  As far as drill instructions I don't think you will find much difference in new and old models.  There is if I remember correctly a surface difference between the new and old ones.  You probably can get that information from Ebonite.  Also old white dots depending on how they were stored became brittle.  Resurfacing may help but cracking out around the fingers and thumb may happen.  The old white dot's were not as bad about it as the yellow dots but still did it. 

Smash49
Top 100 Coaches by Bowler's Journal International 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012!  Outstanding Coach in the state of Texas by Bowler's Journal International 2006.
IBPSIA Certified Pro Shop Technician
SLSM Designs Bowling Accessories.
www.bowlersslidesock.com

bowlingnut07

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 697
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 11:15:30 PM »
if its the WD on the side to my memory that is a 90s ball. the 80s ones didnt have that
Lord Field Staff

batbowler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1862
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 01:36:37 AM »
It may be from the 70's and the durometer on them was in the low 80's! The yellow dots were in the mid 70 on the durometer and the white dots where low 80's with the blue dot being mid to upper 80's! The first number was the year as stated and there was a code that identified everything from the serial number.
Bruce Campbell
Coaches aren't born, they are made!
USBC Silver Certified Coach
          
www.rotogrip.com
www.stormbowling.com
www.radicalbowling.com
www.damngoodbowling.com

Changing bowling, one bowler at a time!

bowlingnut07

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 697
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2012, 07:58:12 AM »
in the 70s they didnt have the big WD on side , i know that for sure
Lord Field Staff

raiderh20boy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1735
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2012, 10:14:23 AM »
November 1976. Number is the year, letter is the month produced! N started the year -no O - P Feb and so on!

batbowler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1862
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2012, 10:26:39 AM »
Thanks Gene/Raider! I knew somebody would remember the code!!! Good luck to you and the Raider this season!!
Bruce Campbell
Coaches aren't born, they are made!
USBC Silver Certified Coach
          
www.rotogrip.com
www.stormbowling.com
www.radicalbowling.com
www.damngoodbowling.com

Changing bowling, one bowler at a time!

raiderh20boy

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1735
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2012, 12:31:49 PM »
Thanks Bruce! If we stay healthy, we might be in the hunt!!!!!!! I hope we get back to Tennessee next season so we can meet up!

squirrelywrath1

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 110
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2012, 06:00:09 PM »
Thanks to all who chimed in on this one.  My photo images are too large to be attached here.    >:(

This ball is being put on Ebay if anyone is interested.   No need for me to hang on to it.

ufonation

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2014, 10:59:36 PM »
hello! i also have a white dot i am trying to date. I did not quite understand raiders reply. the serial number is IM32103. It is red/maroon marble color. I believe the first letter is an I it might be a 1? Its just a line. I can take a picture if anyone happens to come by this. there is no WD log or any other log other than the Columbia300.

batbowler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1862
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2014, 09:07:54 AM »
The first will be a number and it's probably a 1 the M means it was March. The first letter of the year he said was a "N" which would be January and that they did use "O" so the "N" was February and "M" would be March.
Bruce Campbell
Coaches aren't born, they are made!
USBC Silver Certified Coach
          
www.rotogrip.com
www.stormbowling.com
www.radicalbowling.com
www.damngoodbowling.com

Changing bowling, one bowler at a time!

ufonation

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 4
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2014, 02:11:39 AM »
so in plain english, what year is my white dot serial number #1M32103?


march 1981?
« Last Edit: May 13, 2014, 02:15:44 AM by ufonation »

batbowler

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1862
Re: Vintage White Dot, help determining its age please
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2014, 10:23:46 AM »
Yes, I would say probably March 1981. The early white dot just had the Columbia 300 with a white dot in the center. They later went to the WD on the side of the ball. When EBI couldn't keep up with production I know they had some made overseas.
Bruce Campbell
Coaches aren't born, they are made!
USBC Silver Certified Coach
          
www.rotogrip.com
www.stormbowling.com
www.radicalbowling.com
www.damngoodbowling.com

Changing bowling, one bowler at a time!