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Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« on: September 27, 2013, 07:19:57 AM »
Since the house knew there was an issue with the lanes from many complaints from bowlers other then myself.....They put down an actual pattern and will keep it for the rest of the season. They are using the Kegel High Street pattern as the house shot now. So, for the morons that said I was just complaining..I guess this AMF house put out a real pattern just for me! WOW, I didnt know I had that kind of pull with AMF. I still cant believe that they did this just because I didnt like the bone dry condition.

 

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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2013, 07:31:49 AM »
At least you now know it has nothing to do with AMF/Bowlmor.  That should make you feel better.

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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 07:44:50 AM »
SPM,
People were going to quit the league it was so dry. The manager took the leagues complaints and Im pretty sure he had to go to district management to get the ok to add more oil. Either way, I'm pretty happy that problem is fixed. Now...on Saturdays and Sundays they dont turn the lights on anymore.

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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 07:51:08 AM »
They put down an actual pattern and will keep it for the rest of the season. They are using the Kegel High Street pattern as the house shot now. So, for the morons that said I was just complaining..I guess this AMF house put out a real pattern just for me!

As opposed to a "non-actual" or "false" pattern?  ;)
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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 08:21:33 AM »
SPM,
People were going to quit the league it was so dry. The manager took the leagues complaints and Im pretty sure he had to go to district management to get the ok to add more oil. Either way, I'm pretty happy that problem is fixed. Now...on Saturdays and Sundays they dont turn the lights on anymore.

I used to manage an AMF house.  I still bowl in an AMF/Bowlmor house.  I have bowled in numerous AMF houses.  In all my travels I have not encountered 2 AMF houses with the same shot or at least 2 shots that played the same.  The notion that AMF dictates to every center a specific shot or a mandate that says, "Thou shalt not put more than X ml of oil" is preposterous.  We never had to get "permission" to adjust our shot.  We only put out a shot that OUR bowlers wanted to see. 

In my eyes, your situation is one where the people responsible for putting out the shot perhaps hadn't actually bowled on the shot.  They didn't know where all of the griping was from.  To them, nothing had changed.  But any general manager (or some facility managers in AMF's case) worth his salt would listen to his customer base, investigate the issue, and make changes as needed.  And that is what seems to have happened. 

There is nothing wrong with voicing your opinion in a professional manner to the people who make the decisions.  As for those on this website, they have heard numerous times of bowlers complaining about how dry a shot is and the only equipment they have are oil eating hook monsters.  And after these numerous bowlers finally get a ball designed for the conditions they face, they realize their mistake and invariably come back here saying how a Brunswick Slingshot or Storm Tropical Breeze or "insert lighter oil ball here" has saved their season and made bowling fun again.  So hopefully you can see where they were coming from, even if it was a little harsh at times.

I wish you the best of luck the rest of the season and I'm glad the shot is better suited to the customer base at your bowling center.  A GM wants nothing more.

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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 08:35:25 AM »
As for those on this website, they have heard numerous times of bowlers complaining about how dry a shot is and the only equipment they have are oil eating hook monsters.

Such was this case exactly if I recall correctly.  I think OP mentined hook monsters and a Wrecker (as the weakest in his arsenal).  Thus the multiple suggestions to get a weak / mild piece.

"But they were polished!"  :P

Regardless, he got his condition so that is nice for the customer.  Now he can go bowling "for real" on that increased volume THS, with "real equipment".
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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 12:40:56 PM »
The shot at our AMF center is not dry.  Pattern is a little longer now with a bit more volume.  Still do not like the 2 foot buffer at the beginning, but with the longer pattern, not as much of a factor now.  Kegel machine with Fire Oil.  Heard that Kegel gave them some pattern downloads for the 2 foot buffer and playable shot.  Not confirmed, just what I heard.

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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2013, 03:39:49 PM »
Good to see that you got the condition you wanted! Now you don't have to adjust or drill different gear. Or learn to play the lane a different way, or release it different. Now only if you could get that silly thing fixed about having to move your feet left and right on the approach fixed so you never need to adjust
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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2013, 05:20:04 PM »
Have to agree with Mainzer, learn the sport.
Next week it will be too much oil, then what another meeting?
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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2013, 06:12:12 PM »
mainzer,. It wasnt a matter of adjusting. It was a matter of poor conditions..PERIOD.


Never said anything about being on AMFs side dude.

Adjustments are part of the game, I struggle something firce with lighter oil in the heads but I don't come on here and whine I make the adjustments make the spares strike when I can and do the best I can.

The sport is based off of who can make the best adjustments, I would suggest not calling me names because you only make yourself look kinda silly and take my advice and work on getting better. Bowling needs more good young bowlers you could potentially be one, it seems you have the passion for it.
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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 08:09:18 PM »
This isn't the non-moderated forum. Watch the personal attacks and language.
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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2013, 10:19:24 PM »
as bowlers we love bowling,to improve,to bowl on all the neat patterns that are promoted to test our skill.to buy the hi tech equipment and expert layouts and advice. bowling coaches and expert pro shop staff just trying to make a living doing what they love to do.
as bowlers we really don't care for bolmore's lack of respect for league bowling and serious bowlers. they care about restaurants and bars and simply the bottom line.they are looking to cater to non bowlers that really don't care about the fore mentioned or heritage of the sport.

the way people on this board,ps opps,coaches,long time bowlers react to this topic is very sad.
don't promote your equipment,pro shop,advice if it just becomes slanderous statements.
I don't need equipment or advice to bowl on dirt,just my old plastic and urethane works perfect. and maybe its for the better. don't need so many experts and pro shops any more.
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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2013, 10:36:50 PM »
Quote from 12X:
I guess this AMF house put out a real pattern just for me! WOW, I didnt know I had that kind of pull with AMF. I still cant believe that they did this just because I didnt like the bone dry condition.

See your special and didn't know it! I tend to believe the management really didn't know how bad/dry the lane condition was, until he heard or received numerous complaints. We try to keep the bowlers happy and want them to have a good time and bowl well. Just my $.02, Bruce
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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2013, 08:06:05 AM »
Theres a few people on here like mainzer and northface that think they know it all. They also think its ok to bowl in a league on poor conditions. The volume of the 1st 2 weeks was less then what a center puts out for glow bowling. If anybody accepts those conditions and say "adjust" then you will accept anything that people tell you to do. Its called being a wimp and bending over because your a mouse and take any piece of cheese that someone tosses to you. If I know something isnt right, I'm not accepting it and that was the feeling of plenty of the league bowlers. But these other guys on here will bowl on anything because their "real bowlers"...More then likely just panzies in real life and when someone tells them to jump, they ask "how high?'

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Re: Week 3 of league. NOT dry lanes.
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2013, 08:11:15 AM »
Poor conditions make you a better bowler.