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hollaatchaho1

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which is better
« on: July 20, 2012, 11:04:32 AM »
debating either green mamba or hell raiser revenge which one hooks more?
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Re: which is better
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2012, 07:22:33 PM »
just to add: mention what type of hook your wanting a strong overall hook or do you want to see the snap movement? Also asking on the type of pattern and personl number isnt being a dick its giving a better idea of what kind of bowler you are. example a med revs bowler with say 17mph on alot of oil will probably like the mamba do to its stronger roll pickin up the mids giving a better read.
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Re: which is better
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2012, 07:23:58 PM »
These questions about which of two brand new unreleased balls are a joke.  You want to know?  Go out and buy both.  Let us know how they are.  Then we'll just ignore what you post about the two because none of us throw the ball exactly the same as you do as you don't throw them like us so what is the freaking point of asking us.  There.  Is that straight forward enough for you?  No sarcasm there, either.  Now get over it and take a lesson instead of thinking the newest hook in a box is the answer for what ails your game.
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Long Gone also posts the honest truth which is why i respect him. He posts these things knowing some may not like it.

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Re: which is better
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2012, 07:38:14 PM »
Sorry to say but the Revenge has been out for a while.  The Terror is coming out next week and thats not the ball he was asking about.

The follow-on responses were good responses, its the initial responses that could have been left out.  He is new to our website and responses like the initial responses is what sent to many great participants to Ballreviews into different directions.

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Re: which is better
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2012, 07:45:26 PM »
Rightycomplex,

I agree your second response was a fair response and better thought out.  I see your new name is a newbie but I think you've been around for a while.  The fun part is good, but follow up with a response that will help the poster before being called to the carpet.  You have a lot to add to the website, both jockularity and knowledge.

No, I'm not a staffer and not trying to sell DV8, I truly only like the Revenge and I'm working with the Too Reckless and Misfit. 

So please add your wealth of knowledge with your humor and so many more readers will appreciate your posts.

Thanks,
Barry
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Re: which is better
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2012, 08:07:09 PM »
Well nic,

I will definitely admit when I'm wrong and im wrong in this case. I had the Hellraiser Terror in mind when it CLEARLY says Revenge. So being a big man, i apologize to Holla. The answer would still be the same, DV8. However, stats would definitely help.

I have been on this site for over 10 years and i agree with you Nic. Sometimes, we who are more knowledgeable, tend to shun those who are new and less knowledgeable about the sport. There's no place for it. But there are a lot of internet tough guys out there who are very thin skinned and also a lot of new ball x vs new ball y post that are obvious or explained by staff websites. I have to imagine if newbies found br.com they have to frequent ball company websites as well. For ex., a poster put up fireroad v crossroad when buddies had 2 or 3 vids on that subject. My point is who better to explain ball reaction than the staffers themselves and vids to boot. AMF has a vid, dv8 has a vid, what more do you need?
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hollaatchaho1

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Re: which is better
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2012, 08:19:26 PM »
thank you for understanding it was just a basic question. the later respones helped. and to big daddy gone i do not need lessons ive had many 300 games and 800s in my time i dont think that getting a ball that hooks most will solve my problems as u say because i dont have any bowling problems just wanted to add to my arsenal is all so keep your nasty comments to yourself . hows that for a lesson
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Re: which is better
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2012, 08:24:00 PM »
I totally agree with you Righty.  Some of those posts are down right hard to read.

If someone is comparing Brunswick bowling balls, Brunswick is the best site to go to.  They also have videos.  Buddies use to have a ball review section that was outstanding.  The videos they have now is also very good but they don't review every ball.  DV8 and probably all the manufactuers have videos on their website.

But very few ball manufactuers compare bowling balls from other manufactuers.  Back in the day the Joke was how much Lane 1 bowling balls hooked.  This is not meant to slam Lane 1, that was just a great marketing tool.  I threw Lane 1 until Columbia started making them.

Thank you for the follow on replies.  Please keep it fun and a poking at some questions is not problem, but a little help or reference or even a request for more info is a great tool for our website.

Its not my website and if I'm out of line, you have my apoligies.  If there wasn't adversity here on Ballreviews, it would be boring.

Thanks again,
Barry


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Re: which is better
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2012, 08:28:47 PM »
Merely shooting 300's & 800's honestly in this day and age mean absolutely nothing...if you are looking for a piece to add to an arsenal say that....be more precise when asking in regards to equipment...as I stated earlier, if you do not understand hook you cannot ask about it. Bowling balls at the upper echelon of players are used to fill gaps in reaction...not merely saying I want this one cause it hooks more. You need to know where it hooks and how it responds to friction, as well as understanding how the different companies cover respond.
Saying you can strike on house conditions means not much.
And BTW the players that I have either worked with or continue to work with strike on a lot of different conditions & win...and they are NOT afraid to take lessons.
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Re: which is better
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2012, 08:32:32 PM »
Holla,

After reading your response I have to put a little information that will help in the future.  I looked at your profile and you have not listed one.  With 300's and 800's under your belt and being new to our website, its impossible to understand where you are coming from with a question like you asked.  To me it seemed like you wanted a hook in the box that we hear a lot from begining and novice bowlers.  So I not only hope thay you help us in the future, I hope anyone reading these posts has a little better understanding how to ask a question and give us a little help with some stats and lane conditions.

Thanks,
Barry
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hollaatchaho1

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Re: which is better
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2012, 08:45:36 PM »
i guess i must be more specific but i just wanted some options not the nasty ones either . i was wondering more how the 2 balls i mentioned were on heavy oil. as for me i have  med speed and decent rev rate i only bowl on sport conditions. and i do not have anything in my profile because i am rarely here,after today maybe even less. i realize having 300s and 800s do not make me anything special but i consider my self to be a decent bowler. i have been bowling 30 plus years with an avg over 225 so i think I'm doing OK not many people bowl that on a sport condition as well in any event i didn't need all the sarcasm it was just a basic topic and thank you Barry for your input. on another note i do watch the vids from the company's but i have a hard time believing anyone from the company promoting there own equipment     
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hollaatchaho1

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Re: which is better
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2012, 08:56:06 PM »
and 1 more note. i think rightycomplex is to funny saying us who are more knolegable shun those who are not ,i have news for you im plent knolegeable about bowling and im not a lefty
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hollaatchaho1

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Re: which is better
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2012, 09:03:56 PM »
and rico learn how to read i neve said having 300s or 800s in this day and age was special,ive been having them every year for 30yrs and i never said anyting about striking on a house shot been long done with house shots so keep your comments to yourself ty
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Re: which is better
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2012, 09:07:32 PM »
A. I can not only read but I can SPELL...correctly
B. my inference was to you stating that you do not need lessons....EVERYONE at EVERY level needs lessons...
C. 300's & 800's do not a bowler make...especially the necessity of telling others that you have shot them...

Amazing how much better a person is on a website.....never having to defend a word they post.....
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Re: which is better
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2012, 09:08:52 PM »
Holla,

I hope you stay around.  With the knowledge you have playing the sport shot could benifit our website.  It does seem 300 and 800 scores are becoming easier to obtain, but not everyone bowls 300 and 800 scores and with the exception of luck, you still have to be fairly consistant to bowl 300s, 800s and average 225 plus.  No its not as difficult as the early years, but its still a great score/average.

Thanks,
Barry
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Re: which is better
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2012, 09:23:36 PM »
Holla,

A. My beef is no longer with you and I've apologized for misreading your post and answered your question.
B. Attacks make you seem petty.
C. Boasting your "stats" make you seem shallow and raises doubt that you are what you say you are, especially after a horrible and contradictory post topic and question, though, you somewhat redeemed yourself then lost it all over again.
D. What does being left handed have to do with knowledge. I wasnt talking to you about being knowledgeable nor was i calling you unknowledgeable. I was referring to past users who have done so, i was including myself because of my length of being on this site that im sure I've done it as well.
 
If this is how you choose to respond then your opinion and post are not necessary to the site and an example of what is wrong with some users on this site. we might poke fun but we also give viable knowledge to those who ask. Im sorry that you feel the need to respond like that and i hope you find help from other users. Enjoy br.com
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