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Neptune66

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white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« on: June 02, 2010, 03:30:09 PM »
I use bowler's tape to adjust the feel of my thumbhole, and normally, if the ball feels a little too loose, I add a piece or two of bowler's tape to the front of the thumbhole, which normally corrects the problem. But once every couple of months or so, I find myself in a situation where no matter how snug the hole, the ball seems to be shifting just enough during delivery, so that I cannot get any decent follow-thru on the shot.  The ball is not in any real danger of falling off prematurely, but it feels as if it's about to. So I alternatly end up either dropping or delivering to early, or yanking it before that can happen.

Keep in mind, that I ALWAYS have a piece of the white textured tape at the front of the hole, so the slippage I'm feeling is against the back of my thumb.

Anyway... 90% of the time, I have no tape at the back of the hole and all is fine. But then there comes a time, when after trying all sorts of other remedies, I place a piece of white textured bowler's tape at the back of the hole, and suddenly the ball feels great. Does not ALWAYS translate into better scoring right away. But once I get rid of that awkward slipping sensation, I DO usually rebound very well.

But my question is....WHY?  Why would a piece of tape at the back of the hole help so much? Especially when I usually do just fine without it. Maybe the texture on the back of my thumb is smoother sometimes versus others?

Well... just curious if anyone knows.

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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2010, 12:09:18 AM »
You in a way answered your own question. As you use the tape it will get smoother and smoother. Putting that fresh piece in gets the texture back to the new tape.
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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2010, 01:55:39 AM »
The white tape is textured. By being textured, it doesn't allow the thumb to completely stick to the back surface of the thumbhole, whether that happens to be ball material itself or a piece of black tape. The textured surface allows air to get in there, which helps break up a vacuum and also prevents surface-to-surface sticking (example: two pieces of flat glass placed on top of each other with just a tad of moisture in between ... very hard to separate the pieces of glass).

Plus, if you use tape in the front and back of the hole, you'll eventually get accustomed to the same surface feel in all your equipment and will be programmed, so to speak, on how to get out of every ball.

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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2010, 02:07:23 AM »
I like the bare feel of a thumb slug on the front so all my adjustments are to the back of the hole. And many times after I fill the space with white, I will top it off with a single black piece for the smoothness.

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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2010, 08:57:24 AM »
I have the thumbholes drilled very snug (although allowing for some tape), and most of the time just 1 to 3 pieces of tape in front works fine.

I do understand why the tape at the back of the hole works to alleviate the slippery sensation. I guess I'm actually curious as to why I only feel that sensation (when there's no tape at the back of the hole) occasionally, instead of all the time.

Last night, for instance, was the first time in several weeks that I needed to add the tape to the back of the hole.  Could be that the thumb slug on this ball is a smoother material, but I used the same ball the night before and did not have the slipping feeling. Course....  I was also thoroughly warmed up, and had already bowled several games that night, and it was warmer and more humid at that bowling center (the A/C wasn't working well).  So maybe the vacumn created a more secure feeling for my thumb at the the back of the hole?


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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2010, 09:43:57 AM »
answer: oil or grease.
The human skin always has some degree of oil coming to the surface. It easily gets in/on the back of the thumb hole. It is also the reason why you should change your tape at least once a month, more often if you bowl often. Oil builds up and gets deposited on all surfaces you touch. It's why white tape turns yellow with age. Oil also attracts dirt.

Clean the back of the thumb hole and all surfaces inside thumb and finger holes that you touch regularly. Even sand the thumb hole back with 400 grit sandpaper lightly to clean the surface.
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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2010, 10:01:16 AM »
I need at least one piece of White tape in the back of the thumbhole at all times.  I actually used to use vinyl slugs awhile back becaue i liked the slower thumb release.  Then when i changed my pitches to what they currently are, i found myself hanging up alot more so i switched to urethane.  Urethane is still too slick for my tastes so the one piece of white tape gives me a good in-between feel.
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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 10:09:19 AM »
Charles is right, blame it on your skin.

Here''s a solution that worked for me, wash your hands throughly with hot water and soap about 15-20 minutes before you bowl. No matter what you do, oil does buildup on your thumb, and you may find that just washing evertime before you bowl will eliminate the need for the tape. It will eliminate that slick feeling on your thumb more than likely, and your tape should last a little longer too. I also use white tape on both sides of my thumbhole, and encountered the same thing you spoke of.

And, to help with callous buildup from the tape on your thumb, i was taught along time ago about Corn Huskers oil. Using this after bowling will help with callous build up on your thumb, and helps with the swelling from using the tape on both sides.


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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 11:14:07 AM »
Have you considered trying Ron Clifton's Magic Carpet?  It sounds to me that your thumb is swelling/shrinking a little and causing your problem.  The Magic Carpet has enough "give" to alleviate that problem without adding or removing tape.  Warning:  If you "knuckle" your thumb don't try it - it will blister the back of the thumb.  Ron's website is bowl4fun.com, and if you e-mail him he'll give you a piece to try.  That's how he gets us hooked.  --  JohnP

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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2010, 11:31:47 AM »
Thanks.  

I never really considered the presence of oil on the back of my thumb, especially since I generally do not have a problem with sweat or moisture on my hands. Can be sweating like a pig all over, and yet somehow the skin on my hands remains relatively dry (so much so, that in the winter I have trouble with my skin cracking from the dryness).  But what Charlest says does make sense, especially about the white tape turning yellow.  Just cause I dont see any oil on my thumb, doesn't mean it's not there.

And I did consider using Ron's Magic Carpet awhile back, and am familiar with the design. But if it was a success, I would then have to have about 20+ balls redrilled, or at least the thumbs opened up, and I dont want to go through that process again.

Oh... one more question...  about the thumb slugs.  I believe the shiny yellow ones that I have from a few years ago are Vinyl, and the more porous looking flatter colored ones are Urethane, but not sure.  The Urethane actually feels less slippery to me then the Vinyl, but maybe I'm just weird.

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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2010, 04:31:52 PM »
Since '96 I have always employed the use of velcro.

Both the hooks side and the felt side. I use the velcro side for extra friction and grip on my finger tips, and the felt side for the back of the thumbhole, to "snug-up" an enlarged hole.

This may not be a good feel for everyone. I have calluses on my fingertips, so the hooks do not bother me at all. But the felt really gives the thumbhole a firm, comfortable grip, without any discomfort.
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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2010, 10:59:40 PM »
Well whether it''s velcro or white tape, I''m thoroughly convinced it''s helping me now. Went to the lanes today just to practice/let off steam, and believe it or not had completely forgotten about the "tape at the back" topic.

First game was horrid. Granted the lanes were very dry, but it felt again as if I had no pop on the ball.  Not loose like it would fall to the ground. But "un-snug" if there is such a word. Threw a 153 ....or something like that.

Only felt on the loose side when delivering. Ball does not feel so loose that I am [conciously] squeezing it. But I need my ball to feel snug while swinging it, to deliver it with confidence, or I am all over the place alternately losing it or yanking it past the head pin.

Anyway, I finally remembered the tape, and not wanting to make the hole too tight, actually removed a piece from the front and placed it at the back. And suddenly, I was so much more comfortable and totally on fire.  2nd game which started a little slow, finished as a 233. Then a 267, and a 269. Switched to another ball (with tape at the back) that was a little too much for the dry lanes, and still managed a 225.

I am a 200 average bowler in one house and aabout 180ish at other houses. Yeah... kind of a hack. But I admit it.  Anyway.... despite having bowled my share of 279''s, and a couple of 280''s, 290''s and even a 298 and 299, I had never before (league or otherwise) bowled two consecutive 260+ games before this, so it was an excellent practice session.

Now... if I can just remember to put that damn tape at the back of the thumbhole at the first sign of trouble instead of waiting until after I''ve cost my team and/or myself multiple frames or game of pins, I should be doing better.

Oh... by the way... although the hook portion of the velcro sounds like it would tear up the fingers, I HAVE been putting a one small piece of white tape in the front of each finger hole for about a year now, for traction. Doesn''t affect the feel as far as the size of the hole, but avoids the sensation that the ball is about to slip off my fingers before I''m ready to release it.

Thanks again to everyone for their suggestions, and even knowing that it''s not that uncommon to have that slipping sensation or to put textured tape (or the felt part of velcro pairs) at the back of the thumbhole to combat it, is reassuring.

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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 08:16:38 AM »
also, tape in the front of the thumb can change two of your drilling specs

1)it lengthens your span, which can make you hang up, or it can help you stay behind the ball a little longer

2)it can also add reverse pitch, (with multiple pieces staggered), which may actually make you squeeze the ball more

I prefer tape in the back also, if my thumb really goes down, I will put 1 piece in the front, the rest in the back

hope this helps

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Re: white tape to back of thumbhole ...it works, but why?
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2010, 09:00:46 AM »
Hi Yanker,

Yes, I do know that tape at the front of the hole is changing (lengthening) the span. This is one reason I try to limit the number of pieces to 2 or 3.

Have had balls on occasion where I needed 5-8 pieces, and that was definitely throwing things off.  Fortunately I had those thumb holes plugged and redrilled smaller (and more accurate).

I've also noticed if I put too many pieces in the front, that it becomes difficult to turn the ball or put much rotation on it. A bad thing for someone like myself who is already rev challenged.

In this post I was talking mainly about 1 piece at the back versus zero. But one experiment I'm going to try in the future will be to add more tape at the back vs the front and see how that goes (i.e....1 in front, 2 in back vs current 2 in front and 1 in back).

Thanks.