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Buzzhead

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Would you bowl in this league?
« on: May 02, 2007, 03:24:39 PM »
3 person team... 12 lane house.(10 teams this season) We paid $9 a week this year. $7.35 to lineage.
50/50 paid for the banquet. and added $20 to pin money... We got $45 for winning the championship and $138 for pin money...

I drew up a few options for presentation at captains meeting next fall, here they are.

Option #1- Add $2 to total fees creating (10 teams) $1800 prize fund in addition to pin money already in place...
payout as follows-  
1st $400 or .222%
2nd $200 or .111%
3rd $175 or .097%
4th $160 or .088%
5th $150 or .083%
6th $120 or .066%
7th $115 or .063%
8th $110 or .061%
9th $105 or .058%
LP  $105 or .058%
Plus $40 per cycle win for 4 cycles..

Option #2- Add $3 to total fees creating $2700 in additional prize fund in addition to pin money...

1st $650 or .24%
2nd $300 or .011%
3rd $240 or .088%
4th $200 or .074%
5th $180 or .066%
6th $170 or .062%
7th $150 or .055%
8th $140 or .051%
9th $130 or .048%
LP  $120 or .044%
Plus $95 per cycle (4 cycles)

There are other options with 12 teams... same principal..... just more money...
Would you be willing to pay $12 for this?? If you could also list what your paying for fees and prize fund it would be helpful ( I am going to print this out and take it with me...)




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FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!

Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

Proud MEMBER of the FOS!!
Member of the FOS, if there happens to be a 9 pin standing just toss a saw and cut it down~~!

 

BirwinJR

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Re: Would you bowl in this league?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2007, 11:28:36 PM »
Yes the pay out seems good and the linage is great. I just got home from a new league at a AMF house and they are charging $12.40. So yeah I'd bowl.
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Buzzhead

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Re: Would you bowl in this league?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2007, 05:31:51 AM »
Pin money is when you take the prize fund and divide the # of pins knocked down over a season by ALL teams and come up with a set amount per pin knocked over and multiple that by how many pins were knocked over by a certain team... Best bowlers get the most money..... and the possibility of not winning the league, this is dong by many around here so "EVERYBODY" get something.... I bowled in a league one year here and the difference in 1st place to last place was like $3.80......... Why bother trying.........

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FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!

Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

Proud MEMBER of the FOS!!
Member of the FOS, if there happens to be a 9 pin standing just toss a saw and cut it down~~!
FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!

Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

Proud MEMBER of the FOS!!
Member of the FOS, if there happens to be a 9 pin standing just toss a saw and cut it down~~!

Phoneman

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Re: Would you bowl in this league?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2007, 07:42:55 AM »
Our linage just went up again for next year.  $11.00 per person.  League fees going up also gonna hit the magical $25 per night to bowl.  Nice prize fund though.  This year finished 5th and 11th in a 22 team league getting back $440 a man.

MAJM

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Re: Would you bowl in this league?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2007, 08:30:32 AM »

People want to know why leagues decline. When some leagues have 60% of the money paid per week go to the house and the GM of the house or owner claim poor mouth the next year to raise lineage can you blame people for quitting? Sure the house has expenses and is in it to make money, but the majority of bowlers are there to just get out of the house. Even in the 5 man league I bowl in, I'd say 20 out of 32 teams are there to drink and have a good time. Serious bowlers have no problem raising fees from $20 to $25 in one year to cover lineage increases. Maybe its just in the area that I live but over the years when the owner would walk into the league officers meeting just before the new year and claim that he needed to raise lineage to pay for this or that every year one or two leagues would leave. About 5-6 years ago this same owner had a Wednesday Night 5 woman 32 team league. The league had been going strong for years. Well the owner guaranteed that lineage would not go up for this league for the current year and would wait until the following. The women were fine with that, but the owner went to the Secretary 2 weeks before the league started and said that he changed his mind and the lineage was going up. The league got together the following week and quit. 32 teams of 5 women. Just this year they have built the league back up to 12 teams but 4 are leaving at the end of the year. Sorry for long post.
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Re: Would you bowl in this league?
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2007, 06:37:40 PM »
Not bad, but I hope you don't have to give too many pins away per game and some teams wins based on getting 100 pins a game! That happened to my team in the winter league.

Buzzhead

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Re: Would you bowl in this league?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2007, 12:45:57 AM »
TTT

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FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!

Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

Proud MEMBER of the FOS!!
Member of the FOS, if there happens to be a 9 pin standing just toss a saw and cut it down~~!
FAILURE IS FEEDBACK. AND FEEDBACK IS THE BREAKFAST OF CHAMPIONS THAT GOT DIGESTED!

Ten pin?????? Where?? I throw a BUZZSAW there is NUTTIN left on the deck...

Proud MEMBER of the FOS!!
Member of the FOS, if there happens to be a 9 pin standing just toss a saw and cut it down~~!

300_behind_bars

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Re: Would you bowl in this league?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2007, 07:17:12 AM »
Our Friday night league has 3 man teams, 15.00 (10.00 house - 5.00) prize fund.
Season divided into thirds, winner of each third and the next best record go into playoffs, each team receives money for getting to the playoffs.  First and second place in play-offs receive additional prize money, along with usual individual and team awards, balance of prize fund distributed based on number of games won over the entire season.  League is casual but competitive but we have a problem with declining enrollement, last year we had four man teams.

justdale

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Re: Would you bowl in this league?
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2007, 07:49:45 AM »
You look across this nation and the day of giving back to the league bowler is gone. The propreitors are in this to make money and they know if the league bowlers don't want to pay it, the open play bowlers will. So you can forget about why the prize funds are dwindling and look into ways of creating ways to increase your own prize funds. Brackets and high game pots are a just a simple way of using each others money with out having to give any of it to the house. Strike it Rich ideas work as well.
Your never going to get the rates that you used to, so it's up to the executive board for each leach to figure out whats best for them.
Go find yourself a local establishment that is willing to sponsor your league, and use that money for increased prize fund