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jd1319

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Would you consider it sandbagging if
« on: January 24, 2008, 02:47:42 PM »
someone decided to use plastic to start a season, and try their hardest, but then switch back to their regular equipment half way through the season?  There would be no throwing off, but clearly the equipment choice would affect the average.
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Re: Would you consider it sandbagging if
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 11:10:23 PM »
yes!
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Re: Would you consider it sandbagging if
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 11:20:06 PM »
I would't care if it wasn't sanctioned
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Re: Would you consider it sandbagging if
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2008, 06:36:46 AM »
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scratch league no
handicap league yes
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Re: Would you consider it sandbagging if
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2008, 06:47:43 AM »
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scratch league no
handicap league yes
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There are 39 boards on a lane, crossing 38 of them doesn't make you good....it makes you a moron.
BINGO!!!  There's your answer!!!  Look no further.


Not so, one must look further....

This person may be doing it in a scratch league, so no effect on the league, but if he takes that artificially lowered average he could enter big payout handicap tournaments (Hoinke comes to mind off the top of my head) and make a killing. That would be sandbagging to the nth degree.

That being said, the answer could be no, depends on his scores. When I lived in PA, we had a gentleman who threw a Blue Dot almost exclusively. He still averaged 210, actually won the State singles throwing it one year, and had a high series of (I think) 843 with it. So he was throwing plastic, but he sure wasn't sandbagging.
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Re: Would you consider it sandbagging if
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2008, 07:10:34 AM »
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I wouldn't consider it sandbagging. How can you determine intent unless your a mind-reader?


And there is why it is damn-near impossible to enforce the rule.
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Re: Would you consider it sandbagging if
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2008, 09:22:00 AM »
This is why I enjoy leagues that cap handicap.  Our PBA experience league capped it at 24 pins.  Which hurt me because I was only averaging around 150.  But overall in the spirit of competition, this was best.
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Re: Would you consider it sandbagging if
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 09:35:52 AM »
Would you consider it sandbagging if someone says they have an injury but bowls with said injury for 10 or 12 weeks, establishes an average that is about 20 pins less than what they've averaged over the last couple of years, takes about eight weeks off "to recouperate", then comes back (still with some pain) and averages about 30 pins higher than their established (low) average after coming back???
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Re: Would you consider it sandbagging if
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 10:09:09 AM »
Because I don't bowl in the Summer I usually come out of the gate with between 20-30 pins below my average.  It isn't on purpose it's just out of practice.
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Re: Would you consider it sandbagging if
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 12:19:49 PM »
It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.. (Im in law school so this is how were trained to think, haha). You might have a tough time proving sandbagging in most instances.
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