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shelley

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Yet another USBC question
« on: June 23, 2005, 08:59:13 AM »
It's been said by Brunswick and others that the x-hole is used to fine tune a ball's reaction and that it does so by changing the RG diff.  Drilling into a certain part of the ball makes the core taller, increasing the differential.  Drilling into some other part of the ball makes the core shorter, lowering the differential.

Second, there was a rule change a few months ago lowering the maximum differential from 0.08 to 0.06.

Now, is there any data to show how much the differential is changed through an x-hole?  That is, take a ball, spin it to determine its true differential (there are a lot of things that affect it, like ball weight, pin distance, and top weight, so the "official" number may not be exact).  Drill it up in a "normal" way.  Don't make the fingers or thumb excessively deep or shallow.  Put the CG in a position to require an x-hole but don't actually put it in.  

Spin it again to find the differential.  Is it still a "legal" RG diff?  If the original differential was reasonable (say, 0.04 to 0.05 like most mid-range balls), how did the addition of finger holes change it?

Now put the x-hole in, and put it in a flare-increasing position.  Find the diff again.  Is it really that much higher?  Could the addition of a flare-increasing x-hole raise it above the 0.06 cutoff?  If so, I can see the USBC's problem with x-holes.

What about if the hole is put in a flare-decreasing position?  How much does it lower the diff?

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shelley

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Re: Yet another USBC question
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2005, 06:08:53 PM »
It turns out that the latest Brunswick video has partially answered the question.  In it, they drill an AI and add an x-hole (a flare-increasing one at that), bringing the drilled differential to 0.062, above the official 0.050.  So yes, it does noticeably raise the RG diff.  I would have liked to know what the diff was before the addition of the x-hole, but still, my question is mostly answered.

However, and this seems to be important, there was practically no difference in ball reaction between the three AIs that were used.  It would have been nice to see the graph of the ball path like they did with the first video.  And more Throwbot action.  That thing is cool.

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Re: Yet another USBC question
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2005, 06:46:03 PM »
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Have scores decreased since the USBC lowered the specification from 0.080 to 0.060?


Dunno.  Seems like the USBC should evaluate that before they propose new rules.  Maybe that ruling is all that's required (which I don't really believe, given the number of balls that were over the 0.060 limit before the change).

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Are you trying to tell me that I have a distinct advantage by adding an additional 0.020 Rg differential to a ball that has an undrilled Rg differential of 0.054? Will I score higher due to this? The USBC states that weight holes artificially assist bowlers in achieving higher scores. This is an assumption on their part using bad science. Weight holes can increase Rg differential, higher Rg differential can increase total hook, increased total hook can create greater entry angles, increased entry angles can create higher scores. Does this conclusively prove that weight holes increase scores due to artificial means???? Will disallowing weight holes lower scores????  Absolutely not on both counts!



Whoa!  Calm down.  I never said that.  I was just curious.  Furthermore, I don't believe it's true either.  The weight hole in my Mutant certainly hasn't made me a better bowler.  

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Why propose such a thing when it will clearly not achieve ones intended goal, especially when there are so many potential downfalls to the industry?????



I don't know why they would propose such a thing.  Maybe it's a ruffling of feathers, just to show they're trying to do something.  Then when it fails (by bowlers quitting or ignored or reversed), they can say they tried to "restore integrity" but apparently no one wanted it.  It doesn't matter that it wouldn't have worked in the first place.  I believe this is an old political trick as well.

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Re: Yet another USBC question
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2005, 07:24:51 PM »
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What is the largest contributing factor to a delivered balls entry angle? The bowlers release....


Watch what you say.  They'll try to regulate releases next.

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