Lucky, I think this same scenario occurs quite often. Question is, how could you regulate or enforce his involvment in what shot is put down? Of course he should have no right to wall it up for his style, but, what can you do? One of the houses I bowled in a few years back had a left handed manager with about a 200 average, only about 220 in the scratch league!

Are you suggesting league rules that he be not allowed to participate, or?
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Edited on 10/28/2005 1:35 PM

Hmm....are you good or just lucky? lol.
If the shot is the same across all the lanes....just adjust to it and beat the guy. Course, Im assuming its a manly mans scratch league full of manly men who dont whine or complain about tough shots and etc.. lol. j/k. Dont get me wrong, I dont advocate someone changing up the shot all the time but.....It would probably be easier and less stressing just to adjust and kick the guys azs......

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This house puts out a notoriously low volume shot for most leagues.

Always less on the left!!!  It seems this high speed righty has decided to put out a decent oily shot that both sides have been doing well on.  But for position round he put out the low volume shot(that a lot of the easy leagues use) However the easy leagues then end up with a decent righty shot (for those who can't hook it) with a no oil lefty shot).  I really can find no oil marks on my ball when this shot is out!

THis shot plays right to his style and he had a nice 670 or 680!
Some of our lefties seemed to be ready and played very broken wristed and eaked out scores only down about 20 per game from where they had been.  Some guys kept throwing their strong stuff and were down about 100 on the left.

One really quality lefty with a flat trajectory high speed ball ekked out about  mid 600.

Slow speed righties struggled also.

He's fast...the shot requires fast to very fast(say over 17 at pin deck)   There was no announcement...only he knows what the shot is going to be.

His team has now climbed to about 3rd out of 21.

Should
1. He have to announce the change in shot?  I had stopped bringin the weak stuff.
2. Should I shut up and learn to bowl better broken wristed(I'm leaning toward this one)
3. Why is he entitled to this surprise advantage?!
(I don't believe someone setting shot should be that high up in contention or another way to say it....if in contention for big money shot should either be announced...stay the same....or be turned over to someone outside of conflict of interest...blind trust so to speak).

REgards,

Luckylefty
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Edited on 10/28/2005 2:26 PM

We deal with it every week.  Just look next to you.. or a couple pairs down and see which new ball he is throwing tonight.  Purely based upon that, you can get a decent idea of what the shot will be...  FOR EXAMPLE, last week he drilled up a new paradigm.  Shot had a long medium oil pattern with fairly dry outsides.  A while back, he had drilled up a Rule GP2.  Not surprisingly, the pattern jumped from the normal medium heavy 38ft to a heavy 44ft (based on my estimate).....  when position rounds come along...  get ready for something different yet again.  Its constantly changing, seemingly always to benefit him or his team.  Personally, I don't care much as it makes me a better bowler... adjusting to different patterns and playing different parts of the lane.  Funny thing is that most everyone else still hasn't picked up on it.  All they do is complain...  "last night I couldn't keep a ball on the lane..."  "three nights ago they were so flooded I couldn't get a ball to wrinkle.."  Of course, these are the guys who own one ball and are determined to play down the second arrow (either side) come hell or high water.  

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I used to bowl in a small house that was bought by one of the bowlers. He did a very good job of cleaning up a dirty,grungy house. He stripped the lanes and started to put out a better shot.Thing is, he did set up the shot that benefitted him and his son,who needless to say,earned himself a scholarship to college by bowlign almost exclusively there,with the exception of the mandatory Junior Tournaments that he had to go to. He did still bowl well enough to earn it.
 But back to the original post here. I noticed the owner in league one night throwing his normal shined up resin ball. As he was next to me, I watched one shot and noticed that as the ball was onm the lane,that part of it was dull and part shiny. I talked to him afterwards and noticed that he had sanded the trackl area of the ball only. I immediately called him on it and told him that he could have all his and his teams scores forfeited. He never did it again. Fortunately,most of the guys in this league had no idea of the rules. That also unfortunately included the secretary,but that is a subject for another thread.
 I'd talk to the league officers and let them know of your thoughtsa and see what,if anything,they want to do.
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 Lane#1--nothing else hits like 'em.

I'm big....he's a lot bigger and very well established in an area I"m new in.
(He's made the righties estatic to bowl at this center for 4 years!)

I'm going to anticipate the change to his benefit every position round.
(I'm surprised it has not been all year really).

Those weeks I will bring weaker equipment that I use on their terrible weekend shot and anticipate being ready. And learn to bowl better.  I anticipate beating the shot by the end of the year!
Weaker equipment...practice my broken wrist shot...mental anticipation

REgards,

LUckylefty
This was a one year thing to bowl in this very difficult house for me and then next year I'm going to some of our nice shots where scoring does happen.
PPS I believe after last week there are two lefty over 200 in this house this year.  One near 210 another at 200.  (and I think the shot has been good for this center till last week).
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