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eglleftcoast

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Your Starting Five
« on: August 19, 2009, 09:34:31 AM »
One of my teams this year has decided to go with a seven bowler roster in a league that has each team bowling with five bowlers each night.  A schedule has been drafted showing which two bowlers are off on any given night.  So, here is the question I need help on from everybody.  When it comes time for roll offs, how would you determine which five bowlers would bowl?  One of the guys suggested total points won by each individual.  Another person pointed out that might not be fair for the anchor bowler as he will typically face the highest average bowler.  By the way, this is a scratch league.  Anybody have any thoughts??

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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2009, 05:47:07 PM »
I've bowled in military leagues for the last 37 years and it is common to allow teams to carry up to 8 bowlers for a five man team.  The reason for a large roster is TDY, leave, rotating duty schedules, etc where bowlers would not be available every night.  Teams with more stable rosters would have fewer bowlers on them, teams with civilian workers, or retirees.  The extra bowlers are not subs, but a part of the team and they normally pay their fair share when scheduled to bowl.  Can't speak for every league or situation, but that is what I have seen.


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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 05:51:51 PM »
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When it comes time for roll offs, how would you determine which five bowlers would bowl?


That would be a team decision, either made by the entire team or by the team captain.  If it was my team, I would like to have the strongest bowlers bowl (that might not be determined by average, but by who handles pressure better).


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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 06:14:17 PM »
+2 Take your strongest 5. The ones that are not in the top 5 well if they don't like it then tell them to bowl better.
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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 06:25:57 PM »
We always carry 7 on our roster for 5 person team because subs are not allowed during position rounds. Haven't heard of a rotating schedule before but I could see where that would work for shift workers or the militay like MI 2 AZ. Hope they are paying as 4PinHatesMe stated. I agree with the others and would always go with the 5 strongest bowlers for the rolloff.
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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 06:26:59 PM »
My team currently has a 9 man roster for a 5 man team.  There are 5 regular bowlers and 4 "subs".  The 5 regular bowlers pay every night no matter if they are there or not.  However, none of the regular 5 are required to take the night off unless they choose.  Last year one of the regular bowlers sat out the playoffs and allowed the "sub" to bowl to give the team a better chance to win.  (The sub had enough games to qualify for the playoffs.)  I guess its just a matter of team preference.
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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 06:34:40 PM »
on the 5 man league   i bowl in i'm the highest avg and i'm leadoff our 3rd highest avg. is anchor but he's a lefty and the most accurate of us and is less likely to be bothered by pressure(cause hes stoned)so he just goes up there and throws the ball
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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2009, 10:18:47 AM »
as said above.  We have a 5 man team league and we have 7.  Low man from the previous week sits out, unless someone can't make it the next week or wants off.

It works great actually.  The captain breaks up the money at the end of the year based on how many nights you bowled.
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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2009, 10:42:15 AM »
I agree half and half, I bowled many years ago in the military, where the low man sits, and believe me you have to bowl good week to week. I've never been in a league, outside the military, where the low sits? We just have subs, when a bowler couldn't be there.
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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2009, 10:50:30 AM »
I have a seven man rotation because of a few guys work schedules. I have never had this come up as we have never been in the rolloffs. However, I would use the guys who are available and if everyone is available than i would take the 5 best guys.  My team is pretty close with each so guys "feelings" being hurt isnt a problem. Remember, the guys that are sitting out for rolloffs are still part of the team and helped you get where you are.
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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2009, 11:01:42 AM »
We have a 7 or 8 man roster for out Travel League team because subs aren't allowed. We rotate or request weeks off. At the end of year rolloffs and the National Tourny we decide who bowls by condition. Each bowler puts in some practice and we decide by who seems to have the best look. We will rotate if the lanes change and someone is struggling.
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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2009, 01:56:57 PM »


 
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A team i bowl against does this too. Whoever bowled worst the previous week sits.  


See, IMO, that's not the way to do it. What if your highest average bowler has a bad night? Are you going to make him sit and hurt yourself in the process? Personally I would never be part of something like that, as I can have a bad night and come back shooting 640-730 or better the next night. It is not exactly a confidence builder if your team makes you sit after a bad night.
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Re: Your Starting Five
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2009, 07:29:11 PM »
Iused to bowl in a league that allowed rosters like this. Many guys in the league were shift workers. Everybody would show up every week and you were guarenteed to bowl 2 games. The lowest 2 of each game would sit the next game out and the other two would rotate in. The third game carried over to the next week. For rolloffs we would put the 5 highest averages in first and follow the same scheme but many times if everybody was bowling well somebody would just stay out. Many of the men were much older and not as competative.
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