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mainzer

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your toughest pattern?
« on: April 27, 2010, 02:23:07 AM »
what is the pattern you struggle with most? Shark? Chameleon? Viper? A Kegel pattern? which pattern makes you suffer and why?

For me it is the Cheetah. It always seems like I am a hair off, or touch late in adjusting.  If I am bowling a tourney I usually end up sneaking up to the cut line in about the third game after starting slow then missing the cut due to poor carry in the final game of qaulifying.

Also the THS has been giving me fits the last month or so.
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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2010, 01:48:49 PM »
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I've bowled on the "normal" Cheetah(much preferred) and the Cheetah where the outside was out of play - too much on the outside for any ball to recover decent but a couple of boards in and it's runaway brooklyn at best.  


I bowled a regional a few years ago where the new Cheetah was in play. I went in with the mindset the line was outside of 5, and I suffered for 3 games trying to make it work. After that, went inside around 15 with a small swing, and things got much better.

But it was too late at that point....

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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2010, 02:52:17 PM »
If you guys were playing 15 on the Cheetah, then you were playing off the shadow of the normal house shot.  This is a legitimate strategy.  If they actually stripped the lanes properly, this wouldn't be possible.  This may explain why you can't play off the gutter.
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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2010, 03:00:59 PM »
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If you guys were playing 15 on the Cheetah, then you were playing off the shadow of the normal house shot.  This is a legitimate strategy.  If they actually stripped the lanes properly, this wouldn't be possible.  This may explain why you can't play off the gutter.
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Yeah, that's the problem with my home house. They don'tknow how to properly strip a lane so Cheetah is typically the hardest pattern of the bunch because there is no bump outside of 5.

Outside of my home house Cheetah is typically the easiest for me, with Chameleon a close second.

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2010, 04:12:57 PM »
We play a tournament/league every saturday night on the kegel and WTBA patterns... we have played twice out of 6 weeks on the 36ft 1.3:1 ratio pattern... in other words basically completely flat... for 20 games on 34ft, 39ft, 44ft and 47 ft I am +215... for the 10 games on the 36ft I am -350 :/

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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2010, 07:13:49 PM »
For me its the Viper

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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2010, 10:16:17 PM »
The Willow Creek pattern has given me trouble for the past 5 years.
Let''s go back to the wood surface there.
Their pattern is shaped like an hour glass and it is very humbling to bowl on.
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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2010, 10:48:34 PM »
Chameleon...only got to try it a few times at my house and not another one but seriously can't find a line to play it constantly. Over under all night and day for me.

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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2010, 12:00:56 PM »
Shark, just because I have no hand and the ball hooks half a board for me

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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2010, 12:36:37 PM »
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The Willow Creek pattern has given me trouble for the past 5 years.
Let''s go back to the wood surface there.
Their pattern is shaped like an hour glass and it is very humbling to bowl on.
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That is a tough pattern. It never comes easy.
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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2010, 11:13:36 PM »
Like many, I have my lowest average on Cheetah in my local house.  I will be throwing the Natural on it this year so who knows, it may change  I tend to score better, the longer the pattern.
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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2010, 01:20:05 AM »
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The Willow Creek pattern has given me trouble for the past 5 years.
Let''s go back to the wood surface there.
Their pattern is shaped like an hour glass and it is very humbling to bowl on.
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That is a tough pattern. It never comes easy.
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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2010, 04:35:18 PM »
Cheetah is my hardest by far. I've found the only places I can score on it are the places that don't strip the house shot off beforehand.

If you start with a completely clean lane and apply Cheetah, what you have is a very flat shot. I think sometimes we think it's supposed to be easy just because we've heard it's supposed to be easy. Pay attention to the actual graph -- that thing is flat. And if you're somewhere that doesn't have friction on the gutter, you are dead.

Easiest for me is Viper. I average the same or higher than my THS average on Viper. The other three PBAX patterns, I'm about 15 lower. On Cheetah, it's as much as 50 lower depending on the house.

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Re: your toughest pattern?
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2010, 03:47:10 AM »
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Actually, the "unknown". If I know what is out there (e .g. through a graph), I am certain that I will find a way to tackle the shot, somehow. But I really struggle when I cannot get any clear read - had this recently in a house which is notorious for a thin THS. Lane was more or less fresh, but I was not able to find a proper adjustment in line, release, equipment for a good feel and being certain to tell what was actually "wrong". I played poor, too, but that should not prevent me from judging the ball reaction... I suppose that the lane machine was not working correctly, that something in the back end was fishy. But this kind of situation gives me the creeps - esp. in league when there is no room for real "digging" for solutions!
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