Author Topic: your toughest pattern? (Read 3204 times)

mainzer · « **on:** April 27, 2010, 02:23:07 AM »

what is the pattern you struggle with most? Shark? Chameleon? Viper? A Kegel pattern? which pattern makes you suffer and why?

For me it is the Cheetah. It always seems like I am a hair off, or touch late in adjusting. If I am bowling a tourney I usually end up sneaking up to the cut line in about the third game after starting slow then missing the cut due to poor carry in the final game of qaulifying.

Also the THS has been giving me fits the last month or so.
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Good Times Good Times · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2010, 10:36:05 AM »

Dude, Cheetah is my worst by far as well.

Usually end up taking my plastic straight up 13 and take what I can get. Sad when you would rather be on the US Open......

kmanestor22 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:12:17 AM »

Wow. Cheetah is by far the easiest. It's like a house shot if you can play outside 5. Other than the US Open, I'd say the worst is the Chameleon. These patterns are tough to impossible depending how the lanes are broken down. Usually, there are people all over the place on the Chameleon more than any other pattern, which makes it the hardest. When people play a set portion of the lane like Cheetah, it is a lot more predictable and scoreable.
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:17:49 AM »

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Wow. Cheetah is by far the easiest. It's like a house shot if you can play outside 5. Other than the US Open, I'd say the worst is the Chameleon. These patterns are tough to impossible depending how the lanes are broken down. Usually, there are people all over the place on the Chameleon more than any other pattern, which makes it the hardest. When people play a set portion of the lane like Cheetah, it is a lot more predictable and scoreable.
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In the house where I've bowled on the Cheetah for three seasons in PBA Experience leagues, it's been brutal for me. I don't have enough bounce off the gutter to play the 2-3 board area consistently (even going right up those boards), but if I move just a board or two further inside, the ball hooks too early and dives through the nose, and if I do hit pocket it's a ringing 10.

stopncrank · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:22:48 AM »

Chameleon, 100%. That pattern owns me more than any other.
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Xcessive_Evil · « **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:24:46 AM »

Chameleon for me. It may be 4 feel longer than Cheetah, but the total volume is extremely low. If I take urethane in turn the speed down I fare okay, but still my worst out of the 5.

Scorpion has been my favorite for a long time now. Next would be Shark.
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kingpin268 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:28:14 AM »

Wow, I usually enjoy the Chameleon. Chameleon lets me play just about any angle I want to play, which is nice. Cheetah has always been a brutal one for me. Hang outside and takes off inside. Finally learned how to play straight up 3-4 board and have tamed it.

Hardest I would say is the US Open patter personally. I got raped by that last time I bowled on it.
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dizzyfugu · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:35:57 AM »

Actually, the "unknown". If I know what is out there (e .g. through a graph), I am certain that I will find a way to tackle the shot, somehow. But I really struggle when I cannot get any clear read - had this recently in a house which is notorious for a thin THS. Lane was more or less fresh, but I was not able to find a proper adjustment in line, release, equipment for a good feel and being certain to tell what was actually "wrong". I played poor, too, but that should not prevent me from judging the ball reaction... I suppose that the lane machine was not working correctly, that something in the back end was fishy. But this kind of situation gives me the creeps - esp. in league when there is no room for real "digging" for solutions!
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al_g · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:40:40 AM »

Chameleon has been my toughest by far. I think I've only had one good set on it ever. I agree with kmanestor22 - since Chameleon is a multiple angles pattern it can get broken down really strange sometimes since people play it from all over. I think being a tweener, most of the time I can't play it deep enough to get recovery or straight enough to go down the boards. Just a lot of over/under for me.

Shark and Cheetah have been my favorites. Not sure what that means since they're the longest and shortest patterns. Maybe I just like the extremes? I also like the US Open(and BTM) pattern a lot.

kmanestor22 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:55:58 AM »

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Wow. Cheetah is by far the easiest. It's like a house shot if you can play outside 5. Other than the US Open, I'd say the worst is the Chameleon. These patterns are tough to impossible depending how the lanes are broken down. Usually, there are people all over the place on the Chameleon more than any other pattern, which makes it the hardest. When people play a set portion of the lane like Cheetah, it is a lot more predictable and scoreable.
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In the house where I've bowled on the Cheetah for three seasons in PBA Experience leagues, it's been brutal for me. I don't have enough bounce off the gutter to play the 2-3 board area consistently (even going right up those boards), but if I move just a board or two further inside, the ball hooks too early and dives through the nose, and if I do hit pocket it's a ringing 10.

If you cannot or refuse to play outside 5, then yeah, it's gonna be hard. We're talkin' flat as the US Open but 5 feet shorter.
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stopncrank · « **Reply #10 on:** April 27, 2010, 11:58:00 AM »

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Chameleon has been my toughest by far. I think I've only had one good set on it ever. I agree with kmanestor22 - since Chameleon is a multiple angles pattern it can get broken down really strange sometimes since people play it from all over. I think being a tweener, most of the time I can't play it deep enough to get recovery or straight enough to go down the boards. Just a lot of over/under for me.

Shark and Cheetah have been my favorites. Not sure what that means since they're the longest and shortest patterns. Maybe I just like the extremes? I also like the US Open(and BTM) pattern a lot.

+1 For me, i never have gotten a handle on the proper surface for me on Chameleon. Its a catch 22, if i use too much surface, i blow the heads up too soon, if i dont use enough i get terrible over/under.
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Dan Belcher · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2010, 12:47:16 PM »

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Wow. Cheetah is by far the easiest. It's like a house shot if you can play outside 5. Other than the US Open, I'd say the worst is the Chameleon. These patterns are tough to impossible depending how the lanes are broken down. Usually, there are people all over the place on the Chameleon more than any other pattern, which makes it the hardest. When people play a set portion of the lane like Cheetah, it is a lot more predictable and scoreable.
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In the house where I've bowled on the Cheetah for three seasons in PBA Experience leagues, it's been brutal for me. I don't have enough bounce off the gutter to play the 2-3 board area consistently (even going right up those boards), but if I move just a board or two further inside, the ball hooks too early and dives through the nose, and if I do hit pocket it's a ringing 10.

If you cannot or refuse to play outside 5, then yeah, it's gonna be hard. We're talkin' flat as the US Open but 5 feet shorter.
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Like I said in my post, I am playing it outside of 5. However, the combination of the pattern (specifically last year's pattern which was designed to take some bounce off the gutter, no less) with the lane surface and kind of oil my house uses makes it difficult to match up. A lot of people in my league agreed that the Cheetah was much tougher than the other patterns. Hopefully the version of the Cheetah we see this year will play more true to how it was designed.

alloutsmith3 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2010, 01:00:46 PM »

All of them, I suck. lol
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No Revs00300 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2010, 01:11:27 PM »

Mine has been viper. I don't know what it is about that pattern, but we do not get along. I either get early hook or a very weak reaction down lane. I don't want to call it over under even though it sounds like it, but it has been giving me alot of grief.

al_g · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2010, 01:23:17 PM »

I've bowled on the "normal" Cheetah(much preferred) and the Cheetah where the outside was out of play - too much on the outside for any ball to recover decent but a couple of boards in and it's runaway brooklyn at best.

What worked for me was not getting caught in the mindset that the shot had to be outside even though it's a short pattern. I had success playing a tight inside line with ball speed, like 20 at the arrows to 15 at the breakpoint with an Agent. I was just jamming it in the pocket from deep. It picked up the midlane and then rolled straight into the pocket - a hook sit reaction. I'm not sure if this helps you but it's something to consider next time you see it.

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