I bought this ball from 9orbetter here on BR last week. Received the ball Thursday, dropped it off to plug and re-drill thumb only on Friday, and picked it up before league last night and figured I'd try it. Ended up with a drill close to Super-symmetrical and put a 5/8 hole 2 1/4 past my PAP (4 1/2, 7/8 up.)Shot 641 with seven solid nines and two stone sevens but not one ten pin all night. I did leave two 4-6-7-9-10s. This ball is amazing, very forgiving to the right but not if you miss your mark even slightly to the left. Thanks Keith.