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applegam

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What kind of layout is this?
« on: September 16, 2006, 01:57:20 PM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/15LB-MORICH-AWSOME-HOOK_W0QQitemZ260031510218QQihZ016QQcategoryZ36105QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Either the MB is completely messed up, or the pin is close to the track for a RH bowler?
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Hogsharley

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Re: What kind of layout is this?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2006, 10:01:06 PM »
I first though it was a left hand drill but I can see the thumb hole tape is for a right hander.
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applegam

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Re: What kind of layout is this?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2006, 10:02:51 PM »
It also looks to me that the ring finger is a tad longer, which would suggest a RH bowler.  At any rate, what a waste of a good ball.
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MVbowler

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Re: What kind of layout is this?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2006, 10:29:57 PM »
It isn't necessarily the MB that has to be on the correct side of the thumb hole. i am left handed, and have a ball where the mass bias is on the right side of the thumb. it is the CG that needs to be on the correct side of the thumb hole or you will have negative roll. Also, having the pin over the middle finger is a common practice for sport shot bowlers. It provides a little bit weaker reaction set up which helps on sport shots where you dont want a very strong cover reaction.
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Re: What kind of layout is this?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2006, 10:42:07 PM »
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it is a ball drilled for a Medium to Low track Right handed player


It looks to me that it is probably set up for a low track righty, given where the tape is in the thumb hole.  It could possibly also be drilled for a lefty, putting the m/b on the right side, it will end up in the track area, giving the ball a hook/set reaction shape.

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Re: What kind of layout is this?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2006, 11:00:56 PM »
I have an X-Factor with a similar drilling.  The pin is above and just a bit to the left of the middle finger with the mb about an inch and a half left of the thumb.  I am a right hander and my track is medium/low and this is a great ball for difficult lane conditions.  It goes long and does not over react on the back end but does hit reasonably hard.  I think my pro shop operator told me he picked up this drilling idea from Denny Torgerson.
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Re: What kind of layout is this?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2006, 11:57:38 PM »
Well, its probabally a left's ball. But you guys have never seen a RH with the pin the track it seems. Its a control drill sorta speak, it is great when the back ends are flying and you want a smooth read. Its not a good drill for high track players beacause you'll track over everything. You see its not where the pin is, its the CG. Look at this Super Sonic I used to have:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/cobbinside/detail?.dir=89c3&.dnm=d348.jpg&.src=ph


You see the pin is wayyyy negative, but the static weight because of the position of the CG is positive. Its not a waste of a good ball if you know what you want. Also, Negative pins are great in the hands of low track bowlers.

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Re: What kind of layout is this?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2006, 11:49:33 AM »
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It isn't necessarily the MB that has to be on the correct side of the thumb hole. i am left handed, and have a ball where the mass bias is on the right side of the thumb. it is the CG that needs to be on the correct side of the thumb hole or you will have negative roll. Also, having the pin over the middle finger is a common practice for sport shot bowlers. It provides a little bit weaker reaction set up which helps on sport shots where you dont want a very strong cover reaction.
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If you're taliking about a low mass bias ball, then its not really all that big of a deal.  With high mass bias equipment a la Morich's Vanguard Core then its pretty much hit or miss with that mb placement.  My guess however is that its a right hander's ball.

It is true that for low to med pap measurement players, this drill is very useful.  Don't necessarily assume that one needs to track low however, one can track high and still have a pap measure of less than 3 1/2" over. For me the drill is basically worthless however as my pap measure is 5 1/2 over 1/2 up (I also have a low degree of tilt/high track diameter).
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