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Raptor Talon
« on: November 13, 2012, 11:44:15 AM »
Motiv Raptor Talon Ball Specs:
- Color: Grey/Black
- Reaction: High/Strong Backend All colors do vary somewhat from the picture shown.
- Coverstock: Fusion™ Solid Reactive
- Core Type: Predator™ Asymmetric
- Factory Finish: 2000
- Radius of Gyration (RG): 2.46**
- Differential (Diff): .060**
- ** RG and Diff are based off of 15 lb. balls
- Hook Potential: High
- Length: Medium
- Recommended Lane Condition: Heavy Oil

Description: The Raptor Talon introduces the new Fusion Solid Reactive Coverstock and has the Predator™ Asymmetric core. This is the third ball in the Raptor line-up and certainly the most aggressive on heavy oil. This ball is made for oil, the more the better. This ball goes hard all the way through to the pins. If you bowl in tournaments you need this in your arsenal. If you are a league bowler this ball is always recommended for a bowler who needs more ball speed on the typical house shot.


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Re: Raptor Talon
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2013, 02:04:22 PM »



Type (THS, Sport Pattern etc):





Raptor Talon Ball Review
My information: Ball Speed:15mph average .Rev Rate:285 average.
Axis Rotation:45 degrees. Axis Tilt: 15 degrees.

                                Ball Specs Information
Core: Predator,   Type: Asymmetrical,   Coverstock:Fusion Solid Reactive
RG:2.46  15 lbs,  Diff: .060 15lbs,   Int md diff:.015 15lbs
Colors: Grey/Black with yellow and white logos
Surface of ball tested:OOB 2000 grit sanded.
Drilling of ball tested: 60 X 30 @3 ˝”  P3 x-hole 2” deep.

                               Lanes tested:Synthetic
First off.This ball is as adverstised,an oil monster.Unless you have
a ball speed of over 20 mph,keep it off dry lanes.

I used the Raptor Talon on a 42’ heavier oil sport pattern during a tournament.
When the 2 Cruel never bit early enough,the Talon really bit in the midlane.
I used the Talon all 9 games for the tournament.

The Raptor Talon uses a lot of energy in the first 2/3 of the lane.The
Talon really starts it’s heavy roll as soon at it meets the lane.
During the tournament the early roll in the heads and midlanes was
a plus.It enabled me to have some room for error if I missed at the
bottom of the swing.On this longer and heavier volume pattern,the
Talon had a very smooth arcing motion at the breakpoint.The response
to the friction was fast.

During the first 3 games I lined up at 16/7/5.The Talon really shined .
It helped me control the lane.I could miss right and still have  the  ball
recover.This recovery help loosen the swing,knowing that you could
miss and still get the ball back to the pocket.

When the lanes started the transition stage during 4-6,All I had to do was
Move about 5/3/2 which put me around 21/10/7.Now I had oil for hold
And more friction to the right to create bumper area.Which really
helped the pin carry.Now I had extra entry angle to the pocket.

When the lanes opened up on this pattern,during games 7-8,I just moved
4/2/2 left which put me at 24/12/9.I just kept the ball in the oil and
increased my speed.The buffer to the right gave me all the area I needed.

The Talon was all the ball I needed.Early roll,great midlane revs,and a heavy
roll at the breakpoint.But no over-reaction at the breakpoint.
This ball will help speed dominate and rev challenged bowlers when they
encounter heavy oil.

On a 42' house shot that is blened,the Raptor Talon worked great inside
the oil line.Just chase the oil and it works great.But during the middle
of the third game this ball starts to be too much.This is were the Primal Scream
came into play.

Overall this ball is a plus for me.Especially when I find oil.
I can see the speed and rev challenged using this ball on oilier house shots.

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Re: Raptor Talon
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2013, 03:34:20 PM »
Bowler Stats-Ball Speed 15.5 MPH Rev Rate-App 280 Axis of Rotation-30 to 60 degrees Axis Tilt 9 degrees Right Handed PAP-5 over, 1/4" up

The Motiv Raptor Talon is designed for heavy and long oil patterns according to Motv. The ball is as advertised and more for me on fresh house shots also. It pushes through the heads surprisingly well on fresh house shots.  The ball revs in the mid lanes and make a strong arcy continuous move at the end of the pattern.  In addition, the core/cover combo allows me to move deeper then normal for me with oilers.  I have had the most success playing up the boards with the Talon until the shot transitions.  The Core of the Ball, the Predator Core, revs early with a lot of track flare. I am able up to play up the boards as long as the friction is far down lane, or swing it out to the dry until their is no longer enough head oil to get it down the lane.  I am also able to tug the ball into the soup on house shots and it still manages to carry.  The carry of the ball is excellent as the surface, for me, seems to match up much better to the core then either the original Raptor or the Raptor Attack.  I know when to put the ball away as I will begin leaving weak corner pins, no matter what adjustment I make.  I have used this ball on heavier oiled lanes/long sport patterns and was able to get the ball to pick up early and create more angle then players with more hand.   I think it will be a great match up for me early in long format tournaments on wood (with higher friction), league nights on heavier centers and on longer length/higher volume patterns. I am excited about my arsenal for Nationals now, as I have a very logical progression from the Talon to the 2 Cruel to the Venom Strike to the Sigma Tour to the Backdraft.  The Raptor Talon cover is very tuneable and with tweaking the over/under reaction on the fresh is minimized.

If you use this ball as designed, that is on heavy or long oil patterns it will be a very effective ball. To throw it on a burnt conditions will require a healthy polish and a longer drill pattern and a lot of speed.  With the Raptor Talon Motiv has a piece of equipment that is stronger then the original Raptor or the 2Cruel.

I'm very colorblind but the Neomark Graphic makes the ball very pleasing to the eye and give it good shelf appeal.

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Re: Raptor Talon
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2013, 04:26:07 PM »
Rg - 2.46

Differential - .60

Cover - Fusion Solid Reactive

Core - Predator

Having trouble at your local house when they seem a little tighter than usual or maybe when you go out of town to an unfamiliar tournament where you cant get the ball to hook. Worry no more the Raptor Talon has arrived.

With its low 2.46 rg and .60 differential matched with the proven predator core and the brand new hyper aggressive Fusion Solid Reactive Coverstock you can hook this baby on ice. Heavy rolling, continuous and consistent this new release from Motiv was given the highest hook rating EVER by bowling this month magazine. There is no amount of oil that this ball cant conquer.

The Raptor Talon gives me the best look on long fresh patterns over 40 feet in length. This ball is easily the strongest ball ive ever put in my hands and no matter what the pattern may be I know that its going to hook every single time and demolish the pins. The Talons strong roll and continuation through the pins will surely catch your competitors eye on the lanes and in the shop. Head out to your local pro shop and get your hands on one and start turning heads. Get MOTIVated!

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Re: Raptor Talon
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2013, 08:48:42 AM »
Talk about hook, talk about the Raptor Talon. This ball is an absolute animal on heavy oil. MOTIV’s intent with the release of the Raptor Talon is just that, a ridiculous amount of hook! In fact, Bowling This Month gave it the highest hook rating to date. This ball also looks sweet with its black and grey color with silver and yellow Neo-Marks.

I have drilled two Raptor Talons to date. The first Talon I drilled 40 x 4.5” x 60 (pin out of ring finger, hole on P3). This ball is very versatile depending on the surface I choose to use on it. At 2000-4000 I can use it on a majority of fresh oil patterns. Taking the surface down to 500-1000 its cover stock strength is revealed and it will hook a bunch more! The second Raptor Talon I drilled was 50 x 4.25” x 70 (pin under ring with a big shift and a hole down on P3) and this is by far the strongest bowling ball I have ever put into my hand.

In comparison to other bowling balls in the MOTIV line, the Raptor Talon will cover the most boards on the lane. In contrast to the other Asymmetrical balls in the MOTIV Line, the Raptor Talon hooks much earlier and gives the bowler a strong yet controllable reaction.  Stop by your local pro shop and get MOTIVated!

Here is a link to my Raptor Talon in action:

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Re: Raptor Talon
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2013, 11:16:31 AM »
Looking for Hook. The Motiv Rapton Talon is an excellent ball for heavy oil and fresh house shots. With the Predator core this ball has a very easy to read continuous reaction.  The ball reads the lane early allowing you to move inside and play the middle of the lane on a fresh house shot. It easily gets through the heads which is especially beneficial on wood lanes. This ball has tremendous pin carry allowing you to score higher.

I have used this ball on various conditions from a medium oil pattern at 41 foot and a heavy oil pattern at 45 foot and on both wood and synthetic surfaces.

I am right handed and throw the ball at 17mph. I use the Motiv Power Gel Scuff to keep the ball clean and ready to react at all times.

Not only have I had great success with this ball but my customers have also. I have drilled this ball for various styles of bowlers. I have bowlers that have struggled to hook the ball now have all the hook they wanted. Other bowlers can now play an inside line and count on the hook they desired to crush the pocket.

If you want a ball that hooks then this is a great choice. Thank you Motiv for another excellent ball.

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Re: Raptor Talon
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2013, 12:47:24 AM »
The Raptor Talon features the proven low RG Predator core, which is an asymmetric beast having a .060 primary differential and .015 intermediate on the 15# model. The core revs easily and produces massive track flare. The Raptor Talon encases the Predator core with our new Fusion Solid Reactive shell, which comes out of the box with a 2000 grit sanded finish. It starts to hook in the oil and does not stop. There is no quit in this ball! The power through the pins is incredible!

The New Raptor Talon by Motiv will give ANY bowler all the hook they can handle!!! This thing flat out hooks from start to finish!  My Raptor Talon is drilled 55X4.5X50.  This ball needs oil and unfortunately I dont not bowl in a house where I get to throw my Raptor Talon to often unless I play the extreme inside part of the lane.  However,  I have gotten the chance to throw it on some longer and higher volume sport compliant conditions and I must say I was very impressed!! This ball makes it very hard for me to over throw through the break point because its always trying to hook and the ball never stops.  I love it!  Its one of the only balls I have ever thrown on fresh shark where I felt I could keep my normal ball speed (17-18) and still have no problem getting the ball to recover in the backend.  Theres a reason Bowling This Month gave the Raptor Talon the highest hook rating ever with a 57!!! This ball is simply a hook monster! IF you need a ball for heavy oil then look no further than the MOTIV Raptor Talon! Check out my Raptor Talon on a typical house shot condition! Get MOTIVated!!!!! Thanks!

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