win a ball from Bowling.com

Author Topic: When the redemption starts for Jackals.....  (Read 9067 times)

WOWZERS

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 599
When the redemption starts for Jackals.....
« on: March 17, 2016, 01:26:46 PM »
I wonder what Motiv will do in the event identical Serial Numbers are entered for a redemption?

I have seen auctions on ebay for Jackals and Carnages and there is a pic of either the ball, the box, or both, and the Serial # is clear enough ANYONE can see the #.

Just because one is entered first does not mean they are the true owner.

Just because someone has a bill of sale/proof of purchase, that person might not be the true owner of the ball. What if I would have purchased a NIB Jackal or Carnage from any online shop, but before drilling decided I didn't want the ball and sold it on ebay or to anyone? Or, what if I drilled it but have since sold it to someone else? I would think the current owner should be the one to receive the redemption, not the initial owner.

I can envision some not nice natured folks try to round up some Serial #s and try to enter them on the site especially if no proof of purchase is required to be entered. Then it becomes a game of who has the ball for Motiv.

Imagine someone entering Serial #s from balls they used to own on the first day the redemption whatever opens. I am sure bowlers will have a specific window to enter the request for a new ball. Who is not to say that the true owner waits until near the end of the period to enter the info, but if Motiv had already started shipping replacements, they cannot honor 2 replacements for one ball.

EESH. This is a mess.

 

s_hemker

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 342
Re: When the redemption starts for Jackals.....
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2016, 08:33:26 AM »
A few years ago, I had a warranty claim for a 900 Global Black Eagle which cracked. Sent pictures with the serial # to 900 Global and they agreed to send me a new ball, but they made me incur an expense by having to ship them the cracked Eagle before they would ship the replacement. Hope Motiv does not do this.

As I stated in my previous post, unless Motiv customer service is lying which I highly doubt, they are not requiring any ball be sent in!

Bowlaholic

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 711
Re: When the redemption starts for Jackals.....
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2016, 09:08:12 AM »
Missed that in your post.  Great news, Thanks.

spmcgivern

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2079
Re: When the redemption starts for Jackals.....
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2016, 10:39:08 AM »
I have had a warranty issue with the original Sniper from cracking around the logo.  Motiv wanted me to drill out the serial number and not send it in. 

I really doubt they would require the ball to be sent in unless USBC tries to eliminate as many of the balls in bowlers hands as possible.  Might prevent some future issues.

billdozer

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4613
  • Goin' Global!
Re: When the redemption starts for Jackals.....
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2016, 10:54:51 AM »
Do you think they will make a .058 jackal: redemption or go all new?

I feel like it would be best to go all new core?

What do you think
In the bag [Infinite Physix, Volatility Torque, Night Road, Phaze III, Burner Solid, Hustle AU]
*Now Testing* IQ Ruby, Renevant, another IQ Tour solid
Coming soon...???

spmcgivern

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2079
Re: When the redemption starts for Jackals.....
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2016, 11:04:04 AM »
I feel they will have to go a different direction name-wise.  But don't be surprised if the new name has something to do with this fiasco.

Redemption doesn't quite lend its name to other releases.  Perhaps Phoenix (out of the ashes) type might work assuming the name is available after Track's use.

CoorZero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1245
Re: When the redemption starts for Jackals.....
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2016, 11:04:16 AM »
Do you think they will make a .058 jackal: redemption or go all new?

I feel like it would be best to go all new core?

What do you think

I have a feeling they're going to want to put out a new heavy oil asymmetrical as soon as possible. With that in mind tweaking the predator core would be much faster than developing a completely new one. Of course they could (and should) have had something else in development anyways which would make my point mute.

We could get a clue from the ball replacement form when it comes online and we see what the potential options are. If there's no future option to wait until the next heavy oil asymmetrical comes out I would assume that the predator core is retired.

Ken De Beasto

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 472
Re: When the redemption starts for Jackals.....
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2016, 11:06:15 AM »
Do you think they will make a .058 jackal: redemption or go all new?

I feel like it would be best to go all new core?

What do you think
I think they will continue with staying near 0.6 since on social media they keep bragging bout pushing limits or borders.

psycaz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 333
Re: When the redemption starts for Jackals.....
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2016, 06:25:34 PM »
A few years ago, I had a warranty claim for a 900 Global Black Eagle which cracked. Sent pictures with the serial # to 900 Global and they agreed to send me a new ball, but they made me incur an expense by having to ship them the cracked Eagle before they would ship the replacement. Hope Motiv does not do this.

As I stated in my previous post, unless Motiv customer service is lying which I highly doubt, they are not requiring any ball be sent in!

I guess their customer service missed the notice that they weren't doing anything yet and haven't determined what they will do exactly.