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tommyboy74

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Thinking of checking out Motiv
« on: April 14, 2014, 11:37:02 PM »
Hey everyone.  Even though I throw almost all Storm/Roto Grip right now, I've been impressed with what I've seen coming out of Motiv.  Because of this, I'm looking to replace up to 2 of my benchmark pieces and thinking of trying the brand.

Stats:  19-21mph speed, 380-410 rev rate, 4-1/4" PAP (straight across), tweener, low track

2 balls from Motiv that have looked impressive to me have been the Covert Revolt and the Sigma Sting.  I was looking to slot these in as potential replacements for my Outlaw and my Hy-Road/Nomad Dagger. 

For you guys throwing Motiv, and with having higher ball speed, what do you think of these choices?  Also, how have the covers held up?
Current Ball Arsenal
Heavy:
MOTIV Jackal Legacy
MOTIV Mythic Jackal

Med-Heavy:
MOTIV Trident Odyssey
MOTIV Forge Fire
MOTIV Covert Revolt

Medium:
MOTIV VIP ExJ Sigma
MOTIV Sigma Sting
MOTIV Pride Solid

Medium-Light
MOTIV Venom Shock
MOTIV Tribal Fire

 

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Re: Thinking of checking out Motiv
« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2014, 11:56:26 AM »
I'll agree with this.  Storm/RG and Motiv are by far the front runners in my shop, Brunswick is a distant 3rd (although the Strike Kings are REALLY good), and nothing else really sells.  RG's newest few releases are really good, I drilled myself a Sinister and as long as I have some head oil it's an absolute beast.  Storm/RG stuff however just doesn't seem to rev as well or be as pure on the backend as Motiv stuff.  My Motiv stuff I can pretty well just throw at the backend and it rips hard on the back.  I can see why Storm/RG do well on tour because they've gotten really good at blending wet/dry, but Motiv has the corner on the market of hard and continuous on the backend and with releases like the Venom Shock and Ascent Apex, they're really catching up on blending wet/dry better.  Interested to see the Jackal too, Motiv's high end big hooking stuff in the past have been weaker than other companies' high end stuff.  The Jackal looks to break that trend. 

     Motiv is my number 2 selling product behind Storm/Roto Grip. One of my employees strictly throws Motiv and has been tearing it up for over a year now. My personal experience with them is not good. I had the 2 Cruel and hated it, the Tribal and hated it. I have had Sigma Tour for 2 years and love that ball. In my mind, I wish they would have kept that ball in production like Storm has done with the Hy-Road.
     Just picked up a Venom Shock to try and will also be doing a Tribal Fire and Octane. Personally I like what I see from them and all my customers that we have put in Motiv equipment are extremely happy. I definitely recommend Storm/Roto Grip and Motiv over other brands currently. Not saying other brands are bad, just not as good as the three I mentioned.
     A lot of it also is getting proper layout matched with proper surface for the customer.
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Re: Thinking of checking out Motiv
« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2014, 12:17:58 PM »
I do have to say that Motiv has impressed me. The Storm line up IMO has stunk in recent years, with Roto catching WAY up. If I was going to piece together a Motiv lineup (which seems very possible from top to bottom), Jackal, Primal Rage, Covert Revolt, Octane, Venom Shock, Apex Pearl

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Re: Thinking of checking out Motiv
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2014, 10:15:19 AM »
So I too am thinking about giving Motiv a try.  I have been throwing mostly RG and some Storm lately.  Lately my go to ball has been a Rotogrip Shatter.  Not sure what it is, but it has matched up well for me on just about anything.  Now I am primarily a house bowler.  I don't know all the technical specs, but I am basically speed dominant, and usually play around the track area.  I have been told my rev rate is roughly 300, and more up the back.  So where I run into issues is when I have to go too far left, I don't have enough hand to play deep when necessary.  I have a couple of ball credits with my pro shop, so thinking about making this move.  I am also coming off a surgery so my ball speed is down some as well.  My nephew has been throwing Motiv and says a "must have" is the Primal Rage.  He say he has been having a lot of luck starting out with the Rage then balling down to the Octane.   Any suggestions on a 2 ball Motiv starter setup?   Is the Rage too condition specific?   Right now I go to league night with an Asylum, Shatter and Scream...with the Shatter getting most of the play.  I'm looking for something with an angular backend to help my lack of hand.   Lots of good info on the forum, just not sure what to try.  Rage, Octane?  Or maybe Rage, Shock to have a gap in the arsenal?  Or ????

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Re: Thinking of checking out Motiv
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2014, 10:26:37 AM »
I own(and use) a lot of Motiv stuff. I'm a big fan of the Primal Rage and the Octane. However, if I was going to have only two balls from the current Motiv lineup, it would be the Sigma Sting and the Tribal.

IMHO the Sigma Sting is the best ball Motiv has produced to date. The Tribal is a perfect step down from the Sigma Sting, at least for me.
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Re: Thinking of checking out Motiv
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2014, 01:56:39 PM »
I just started using Motiv this season.  Currently throwing the Motiv Octane, and I can honestly say that I love this ball.  Previously to that I was throwing primarily Elite stuff, which I still mix in, but the Octane is my go to ball due to the control and hit.
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Re: Thinking of checking out Motiv
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2014, 04:24:03 PM »
primal rage is the best ball ever made.